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Muslim mother murders daughter raped by brothers to restore 'honor'
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Bunn E Rabbit
2003-12-12 11:08:01 UTC
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Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???

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http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3D8023

Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'

By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers

ABU QASH, West Bank =97 Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.

So Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud says she did what she believes any good
Palestinian parent would: restored her family's "honor" through murder.

Armed with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, Qaoud entered her
sleeping daughter's room last Jan. 27. "Tonight you die, Rofayda," she
told the girl, before wrapping the bag tightly around her head.

Next, Qaoud sliced Rofayda's wrists, ignoring her muffled pleas of "No,
mother, no!" After her daughter went limp, Qaoud struck her in the head
with the stick.

Killing her sixth-born child took 20 minutes,
Qaoud tells a visitor through a stream of tears and cigarettes that she
smokes in rapid succession. "She killed me before I killed her," says
the 43-year-old mother of nine. "I had to protect my children. This is
the only way I could protect my family's honor."

The guilty brothers are in jail.

Qaoud's confessed crime, for which she must appear before a three-judge
panel Dec. 3, is one repeated almost weekly among

Palestinians living in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Israel. Female
virtue and virginity define a family's reputation in Arab cultures, so
it's women who are punished if that reputation is perceived as sullied.

Victims' rights groups say the number of "honor crimes" appears to be
climbing, but at the same time, getting little attention. Israelis and
Palestinians are too busy with political and military issues to notice
what they dismiss as domestic disputes, says Suad Abu-Dayyeh, who works
for the Women's Center for Legal Aid and Counseling in East Jerusalem.

Poverty and war have exacerbated the problem, says Nadera
Shalhoub-Kevorkian, a social work and criminology professor at Hebrew
University in Jerusalem and an expert on violence against women. "Men do
not have any power except over women," she says.

Palestinian police reported 31 cases in 2002, up from five during the
first half of 1999, according to the center's study. Police in Israel
investigated at least 18 honor killings in the past three years.

But the number of killings is likely higher, given that Palestinian
police investigate only crimes that have been reported, said Yousef
Tarifi, the Ramallah prosecutor assigned to Qaoud's case.
Shalhoub-Kevorkian says her research showed the likely number to be 15
times higher than the number of reported cases.

Qaoud says her husband, Abdul Rahim, 52, told her the Quran forbade such
killings. But neither his pleas nor those of Palestinian crisis
counselors swayed her.

According to court records, Rofayda was raped by her brothers, Fahdi,
22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room
house. On Nov. 26, 2002, doctors at a nearby hospital who were treating
Rofayda for an injured leg discovered she was eight months pregnant.

Palestinian authorities whisked her off to a women's shelter in
Bethlehem, where she gave birth to a healthy boy Dec. 23. He has been
adopted by another Palestinian family, court records show.

Rofayda, meanwhile, wanted to return to her parents in the Ramallah
suburb of Abu Qash. Ramallah Gov. Mustafa Isa called a meeting with the
family and village elders, demanding they pledge in writing not to harm
the girl.

"He asked me if everyone in the family and the village would promise not
to bother this girl, but I told him I couldn't give him a guarantee,"
Abu Qash Mayor Faik Shalout says.
Rofayda returned home in late January without notifying the authorities.

The shame was unbearable, Qaoud said. Relatives and friends refused to
speak to her family. Her elder daughters' husbands wouldn't allow them
to visit because Rofayda had returned home.

On Jan. 27, Rofayda sent word that she was in danger to counselors at
Abu-Dayyeh's center in East Jerusalem. They, in turn, called Palestinian
police in Ramallah, who have jurisdiction over Abu Qash. The police said
they couldn't get to the Qaoud home because of Israeli checkpoints.

Qaoud, meanwhile, sent her husband, who suffers from heart disease, to a
doctor in the nearby village of Bir Zeit. Her three youngest children
went to a cousin's house.

At 11:30 p.m. she killed Rofayda, court records show. Tarifi, the
prosecutor, says he's convinced Qaoud had an accomplice, but Qaoud
insists she acted alone.

Qaoud turned herself in and, after four months in jail, was released
pending the resolution of her case.

While honor killings committed in the heat of the moment =97 for
example, by a husband who catches his wife in bed with another man =97
generally carry a six-month to one-year jail term, Qaoud will likely be
sentenced to three to five years in prison, Tarifi says.

The fact she is a mother who was trying to protect her family's honor
mitigates the crime of premeditated murder, which is punishable by death
under Palestinian law, he adds.

The brothers are serving minimum 10-year sentences in a Palestinian jail
in the West Bank city of Jericho for statutory rape of a relative,
Tarifi says.

No trace of Rofayda or her brothers remains in the family home. Qaoud
says she ripped up all of their photographs and burned their clothes.
The bedroom in which she killed her daughter is now a storeroom.

Erasing the memories is harder, she admits.

She eases her pain by doting on her three children still living at home,
especially the youngest, Fatima, 9, whom she lavishes with kisses. The
children say they've forgiven Qaoud and return her affection.

"My mother did this because she does not want us to be punished by
people," Fatima explains with a shy smile. "I love my mother much more
now than before."

Copyright =A9 2003 The Seattle Times Company



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Rick Zuma
2003-12-12 15:51:44 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
The Left can't face the evil of Islam.

Also, let's notice the "blame the victim" nature of Islamic societies.
Women are the victims and they are blamed and punished for their
"crimes".

Muslims always blame the victims whenever they inflict violent harm.
Whenever there is Islamic aggression, the propaganda flows. There is
usually some "reason" given why you brought it upon yourself. Every
act of Islamic atrocity is seen as defensive in nature. After 9/11,
the super-rich Saudi, "Prince" al-Ahwead, said to the mayor of New
York, Rudy Giuliani, "you should ask why this has been done to you",
with the obvious implication that we brought this on ourselves. Rudy
essentially told the "Prince" he can take his money and shove it.
However, the stunned "Prince" didn't have anything specific in mind -
he was just being a Muslims - blaming the victim.

By the way, this goes back to Muhammad, of the several dozen battles
he fought only one, the battle of the Ditch, is clearly defensive. But
Muslims claim they all were defensive - the victims are to be blamed.
Islam hasn't changed.
eflorack
2003-12-12 20:03:37 UTC
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Post by Rick Zuma
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
The Left can't face the evil of Islam.
Also, let's notice the "blame the victim" nature of Islamic societies.
Women are the victims and they are blamed and punished for their
"crimes".
Muslims always blame the victims whenever they inflict violent harm.
Whenever there is Islamic aggression, the propaganda flows. There is
usually some "reason" given why you brought it upon yourself. Every
act of Islamic atrocity is seen as defensive in nature. After 9/11,
the super-rich Saudi, "Prince" al-Ahwead, said to the mayor of New
York, Rudy Giuliani, "you should ask why this has been done to you",
with the obvious implication that we brought this on ourselves. Rudy
essentially told the "Prince" he can take his money and shove it.
However, the stunned "Prince" didn't have anything specific in mind -
he was just being a Muslims - blaming the victim.
By the way, this goes back to Muhammad, of the several dozen battles
he fought only one, the battle of the Ditch, is clearly defensive. But
Muslims claim they all were defensive - the victims are to be blamed.
Islam hasn't changed.
Nor, I fear, have their backers here in the west.

http://bitheads.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_bitheads_archive.html#106918038083783510

Note the date of that posting... nearly a month ago.
Nobody bothered to comment.... not even the ones who usually mail bomb
me when I question Kennedy's motives, for example.

These people know what they're supporting; they just chose to ignore
it.
Jack
2003-12-12 22:09:54 UTC
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Post by Rick Zuma
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
The Left can't face the evil of Islam.
Also, let's notice the "blame the victim" nature of Islamic societies.
Women are the victims and they are blamed and punished for their
"crimes".
who cares ... nits make lice.
abdul rahim
2003-12-14 06:19:19 UTC
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x-no-archive: yes

you insult a great religion. an apology is overdue.
Phaedrine Stonebridge
2003-12-14 07:03:07 UTC
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Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: yes
you insult a great religion. an apology is overdue.
The article was about a muslim woman killing her innocent daughter and
for that you have the audacity to demand an apology, making sure you are
not archived.

Let me be the first to congratulate you for showing us all what a lowly,
disgusting piece of muslim trash you truly are and for once again
illustrating, as so often done in this NG, that islam is a primitive,
violent ideology for psychopaths and the galactically stupid.
Bill Levinson
2003-12-15 03:08:42 UTC
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Post by Phaedrine Stonebridge
Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: yes
you insult a great religion. an apology is overdue.
The article was about a muslim woman killing her innocent daughter and
for that you have the audacity to demand an apology, making sure you are
not archived.
Let me be the first to congratulate you for showing us all what a lowly,
disgusting piece of muslim trash you truly are and for once again
illustrating, as so often done in this NG, that islam is a primitive,
violent ideology for psychopaths and the galactically stupid.
Militant "Islam" is a cancer. http://www.omdurman.org/militant.html
http://www.omdurman.org/defend.html

--Bill
http://www.omdurman.org/
Irony Alert
2003-12-14 09:17:08 UTC
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Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: yes
you insult a great religion. an apology is overdue.
Post archived for posterity.
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Moderate Mammal
2003-12-14 11:04:15 UTC
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Post by Bob M.
wrote in message
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western
feminists of such atrocities? Why does the PC
media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
The Left can't face the evil of Islam.
And the reason is because Muslims are not of European ancestry. Meaning
they're not white.
The left has a bizarre phobia of assigning responsibility to anyone who
is brown, black, yellow and all hues in between. And the same reason
all of the unspeakable atrocities committed in Africa and Asia go
unanswered.

If this offends anyone, tough shit.

Nobody on the left cried when NATO bombed churches and bridges in
Southeastern Europe.
Right now the Muslims in the region are at it again murdering Christians
just like they did in the last decade when finally the Serbs responded.
But the left only reported on Serbian atrocities and ignored the Islamic
ones that started the war in Kosovo in the first place.
And the hypocrites marched ad nauseam against Apartheid in South Africa
but never said boo of far more serious African atrocities or when Mugabe
raped white women and butchered white men in Zimbabwe.

Or when Clinton made a clusterfuck out of Somalia. Or when Clinton and
the left ignored the most violent short term genocide in Human history.
When the Hutu leaders using machetes butchered 800,000 Tutsi and other
indigenous populations while doing nothing when the UN pleaded with
Clinton to help. The same UN that the left praises are the world's
savior.

Where is the outrage of slavery in the Sudan? The genocide of millions?
The 'ethnic cleansing'?

And the silence of other current atrocities *now* occurring in North
Korea, Burma, Sudan, Timor, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia,
Nigeria, Jordan, 'Palestine', Syria, Lebanon, Cuba, Bangladesh, China,
Congo, South Africa, Yemen, et. al.

Where are the marches? The boycotts? The goofy actors and musicians
with there political "aid" concerts and rallies?

That's right, the perpetrators aren't White. Never mind the facts that
the victims are mostly of color. The modern leftist is the most racist
of all. Even slightly more so than the rightwing lunatics who deny the
Holocaust and denegrate black folks. Imagine that.

--
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of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
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alexz
2003-12-14 17:16:17 UTC
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Post by Moderate Mammal
Post by Bob M.
wrote in message
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western
feminists of such atrocities? Why does the PC
media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
The Left can't face the evil of Islam.
And the reason is because Muslims are not of European ancestry. Meaning
they're not white.
The left has a bizarre phobia of assigning responsibility to anyone who
is brown, black, yellow and all hues in between. And the same reason
all of the unspeakable atrocities committed in Africa and Asia go
unanswered.
If this offends anyone, tough shit.
Nobody on the left cried when NATO bombed churches and bridges in
Southeastern Europe.
Right now the Muslims in the region are at it again murdering Christians
just like they did in the last decade when finally the Serbs responded.
But the left only reported on Serbian atrocities and ignored the Islamic
ones that started the war in Kosovo in the first place.
And the hypocrites marched ad nauseam against Apartheid in South Africa
but never said boo of far more serious African atrocities or when Mugabe
raped white women and butchered white men in Zimbabwe.
Or when Clinton made a clusterfuck out of Somalia. Or when Clinton and
the left ignored the most violent short term genocide in Human history.
When the Hutu leaders using machetes butchered 800,000 Tutsi and other
indigenous populations while doing nothing when the UN pleaded with
Clinton to help. The same UN that the left praises are the world's
savior.
Where is the outrage of slavery in the Sudan? The genocide of millions?
The 'ethnic cleansing'?
And the silence of other current atrocities *now* occurring in North
Korea, Burma, Sudan, Timor, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia,
Nigeria, Jordan, 'Palestine', Syria, Lebanon, Cuba, Bangladesh, China,
Congo, South Africa, Yemen, et. al.
Where are the marches? The boycotts? The goofy actors and musicians
with there political "aid" concerts and rallies?
Most importently you forgot the attack on Yugoslavya without the UN
approval which was such an issue going after saddam and of course
the fact that US troops trained a fought with the KLA which is an
AL Qaeda associates.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
2003-12-18 03:02:22 UTC
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Post by Moderate Mammal
Or when Clinton made a clusterfuck out of Somalia. Or when Clinton and
the left ignored the most violent short term genocide in Human history.
When the Hutu leaders using machetes butchered 800,000 Tutsi and other
indigenous populations while doing nothing when the UN pleaded with
Clinton to help. The same UN that the left praises are the world's
savior.
You gotta admit, though, killing 800,000 people with machetes shows,
first, the initiative to do a job with the tools at hand, so to speak,
as well as a great deal of dedication and determination to carry on.
After the first 30-40,000, your arm's gotta be getting pretty tired,
the machete is getting dull, you're all covered with blood from people
who have God knows what diseases and parasites. That's work ethic,
man. Sure, Saddam was more efficient, but he also had more money for
bullets, and better technology, like poison gas. That's the lazy way
out.
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Bob M.
2003-12-12 16:37:31 UTC
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"Bunn E Rabbit" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:116-3FD9A191-***@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net...

Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???

--
Keith


http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023

Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'

By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers

ABU QASH, West Bank - Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.

So Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud says she did what she believes any good
Palestinian parent would: restored her family's "honor" through murder.

Armed with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, Qaoud entered her
sleeping daughter's room last Jan. 27. "Tonight you die, Rofayda," she
told the girl, before wrapping the bag tightly around her head.

Next, Qaoud sliced Rofayda's wrists, ignoring her muffled pleas of "No,
mother, no!" After her daughter went limp, Qaoud struck her in the head
with the stick.
Snip....

It sounds like you are more outraged by percieved lack of action by we
liberals and so called PC media than you are of the Muslim atrocity itself.
They commit the crime and you lash out at us and the media. Think about it a
minute, isn't that exactly what the mother is doing. Her sons commit an evil
act and she lashes out and kills her daugher who did nothing. Of course
that's what Bush and the neo-cons did too. Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Bob
Wally Anglesea™
2003-12-12 19:48:10 UTC
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Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
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free
2003-12-12 20:25:53 UTC
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Post by Wally Anglesea™
Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
There are lots of c*nts* in the world, why this one?
Does Bush have some secret fetish for Saddam, like
a personal vendetta? Is it ok for Bush to use the
US army to answer a slur on his father?

King Bush defending the faith in a secular nation state.
Do you ever wonder that you are being used Jockboy?
Wally Anglesea™
2003-12-12 20:35:17 UTC
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Post by free
Post by Wally Anglesea™
Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
There are lots of c*nts* in the world, why this one?
Does Bush have some secret fetish for Saddam, like
a personal vendetta? Is it ok for Bush to use the
US army to answer a slur on his father?
Nah, but someone should have corrected the mistake back during Gulf
War 1. Whether it was Jnr or not, it was about time.
Post by free
King Bush defending the faith in a secular nation state.
Do you ever wonder that you are being used Jockboy?
Nope.
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Irony Alert
2003-12-12 20:48:33 UTC
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Post by free
Post by Wally Anglesea™
Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
There are lots of c*nts* in the world, why this one?
Does Bush have some secret fetish for Saddam, like
a personal vendetta? Is it ok for Bush to use the
US army to answer a slur on his father?
King Bush defending the faith in a secular nation state.
Do you ever wonder that you are being used Jockboy?
Fuck Saddam...

Oh, I forgot, we already did.
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The Holy Kafir
2003-12-12 21:07:28 UTC
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Post by free
Post by Wally Anglesea™
Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
There are lots of c*nts* in the world, why this one?
Does Bush have some secret fetish for Saddam, like
a personal vendetta? Is it ok for Bush to use the
US army to answer a slur on his father?
King Bush defending the faith in a secular nation state.
Do you ever wonder that you are being used Jockboy?
"King Bush"? Looks like you're being used too.
Moderate Mammal
2003-12-14 13:04:01 UTC
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<snipped>
Post by free
Post by Wally Anglesea™
Saddam was a cunt, and deserved it
There are lots of c*nts* in the world, why this
one? Does Bush have some secret fetish for
Saddam, like a personal vendetta?
Did Clinton have a "secret fetish" for Slobodan Milosevic?
Post by free
Is it ok for Bush to use the US army to answer a
slur on his father?
10 years of not compling with UN Resolutions.
Or do you agree that the UN is worthless?
Post by free
King Bush defending the faith in a secular
nation state. Do you ever wonder that you are
being used Jockboy?
Are you 13 years old?

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"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death
of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
_____

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon
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Peter
2003-12-13 01:57:26 UTC
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IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER YOU SAID ASK WHY THEY DID
IT WELL WE ASKED AND ANSWERED. IRAQ WAS THE EVIL OF ISLAM AND SO ARE ALL THE
REST OF THE ISLAMIC BEASTS. WE WILL GET THEM ALL JUST WAIT AND SEE.

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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023
Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'
By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
ABU QASH, West Bank - Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.
So Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud says she did what she believes any good
Palestinian parent would: restored her family's "honor" through murder.
Armed with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, Qaoud entered her
sleeping daughter's room last Jan. 27. "Tonight you die, Rofayda," she
told the girl, before wrapping the bag tightly around her head.
Next, Qaoud sliced Rofayda's wrists, ignoring her muffled pleas of "No,
mother, no!" After her daughter went limp, Qaoud struck her in the head
with the stick.
Snip....
It sounds like you are more outraged by percieved lack of action by we
liberals and so called PC media than you are of the Muslim atrocity itself.
They commit the crime and you lash out at us and the media. Think about it a
minute, isn't that exactly what the mother is doing. Her sons commit an evil
act and she lashes out and kills her daugher who did nothing. Of course
that's what Bush and the neo-cons did too. Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri
plot to blow up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam. Why is it any
different?
Bob
Patriots' Blood
2003-12-13 03:16:04 UTC
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Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane with a 125' wingspan
through a 30' hole in the Pentagon's first floor wall?

Never ex-communicated-Hitler's banker, Knight of Malta Prescott
Bus(c)h's grandson...and the son of an accomplice to the Roman Catholic
CIA's assassination of President Kennedy.

9-11 was treason...not sodomite Islam.
John Griffin
2003-12-13 05:09:46 UTC
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In article
Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane with a
125' wingspan through a 30' hole in the Pentagon's first
floor wall?
Thanks for saying that.

Best laugh I've had today, idiot.
Phaedrine Stonebridge
2003-12-13 05:32:09 UTC
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Post by John Griffin
In article
Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane with a
125' wingspan through a 30' hole in the Pentagon's first
floor wall?
Thanks for saying that.
Best laugh I've had today, idiot.
Must be a full moon lol.
The Holy Kafir
2003-12-13 06:04:56 UTC
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Post by Patriots' Blood
Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane with a 125' wingspan
through a 30' hole in the Pentagon's first floor wall?
Never ex-communicated-Hitler's banker, Knight of Malta Prescott
Bus(c)h's grandson...and the son of an accomplice to the Roman Catholic
CIA's assassination of President Kennedy.
9-11 was treason...not sodomite Islam.
You got any proof there, Howard Dean?
Jack
2003-12-13 08:56:59 UTC
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Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane
yeah, you've got the language of kookspeak down pat, PatriotGeek.
Moderate Mammal
2003-12-14 14:08:24 UTC
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Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11
REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an
airplane with a 125' wingspan through a 30'
hole in the Pentagon's first floor wall?
A Reptilian Alien using a Flying Saucer? The NWO? The Jews? The
Bushies so they could steal Iraqi oil? Fox News or CNN to increase
ratings? PETA? Greenpeace? The Gubermint? The Negros? Black
Helicopters? The UN?

That about covers the Left/Right wing wacko theories.
Post by Patriots' Blood
Never ex-communicated-Hitler's banker,
No kidding?
Post by Patriots' Blood
Knight of Malta Prescott Bus(c)h's grandson
Not bad. But my ancestors invaded and conquered Australia.
Post by Patriots' Blood
...and the son of an accomplice to the Roman
Catholic CIA's assassination of President
Kennedy.
Wrong. I assassinated Kennedy. That's right. Was only three years
old(rabbit years). On that fateful day while nibbling tasty flora at
the grassy knoll I became enraged at Kennedy for his environmental
policies and his riding in that goddam gas guzzling Lincoln using leaded
gasoline. So I shot the bastard with a high powered rifle. Then after
returning home to my hutch I met Tony Rabbitelli who gave me a package
of unmarked greenbacks with a note stating, "Thank you. Lyndon".

I then bought a WW Rabbit Bus and cruised the highways next to meadows
for the next 20 years, picked up 100 thousand girl bunnies, shared
Marijuana and now all Mammals have to use condoms.
Post by Patriots' Blood
9-11 was treason...not sodomite Islam.
Is is tinfoil or aluminum?

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Carl R. Osterwald
2003-12-15 15:34:46 UTC
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Post by Patriots' Blood
Post by Peter
IT WAS THE EVILS OF ISLAM THAT DID 9/11 REMEMBER
Who is responsible for "disappearing" an airplane with a 125' wingspan
through a 30' hole in the Pentagon's first floor wall?
Never ex-communicated-Hitler's banker, Knight of Malta Prescott
Bus(c)h's grandson...and the son of an accomplice to the Roman Catholic
CIA's assassination of President Kennedy.
9-11 was treason...not sodomite Islam.
All resulting in the HUGE POOLS OF MOLTEN STEEL!!!


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Moderate Mammal
2003-12-14 12:15:24 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western
feminists of such atrocities? Why does the PC
media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3D8023

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Post by Bob M.
It sounds like you are more outraged by
percieved lack of action by we liberals and so
called PC media than you are of the Muslim
atrocity itself.
No. Now where is the outrage by Liberals??? Inquiring Moderates would
like to know.
Post by Bob M.
They commit the crime and you lash out at us
and the media.
No. I lash out at Muslims for being barbaric and Liberals defend and
ignore Muslims with their sick and twisted mental gymnastics of
equivocating. Have you _ever_ seen a peace march by Muslims?
Post by Bob M.
Think about it a minute, isn't that exactly what
the mother is doing.
No. She is a member of death cult.
Post by Bob M.
Her sons commit an evil act and she lashes out
Lashes out? She fucking butchered her own daughter which is condoned by
Islamo-facisim.
Post by Bob M.
and kills her daugher who did nothing. Of
course that's what Bush and the neo-cons did
too.
One trick pony. It's all Bush's fault, eh? And you would have done
what with Iraq? 10 more years of UN resolutions?
Post by Bob M.
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri plot to blow
up the twin towers and Bush attacks Saddam.
True. He should have deported all Muslims, cut off all aid as well as
trade to Islamic nations and ignore them until they decide to join
civilization. Let the euro-shit fight WWIII. Liberals certainly
shouldn't have a problem with this as Muslims slaugher each other, their
neighbors and the rest of the world. You ignore such everywhere else.
Post by Bob M.
Why is it any different?
You believe FDR, Churchill and Truman were war criminals? Were the
Nazis a "peaceful people"? How 'bout "moderate Nazis"? This your level
of debating.

You lose.

--
Keith
Post by Bob M.
Bob
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Bill Levinson
2003-12-12 22:13:50 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023
Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'
By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
ABU QASH, West Bank — Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.
She'd have done the world a favor by using it on her mother's throat.
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
So Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud says she did what she believes any good
Palestinian parent would: restored her family's "honor" through murder.
Armed with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, Qaoud entered her
sleeping daughter's room last Jan. 27. "Tonight you die, Rofayda," she
told the girl, before wrapping the bag tightly around her head.
This subhuman piece of trash (the mother) should be sterilized so she
cannot have any more children to "dishonor" her by being raped. As a
matter of fact, I hope another raghead rapes her so she can suffer what
she inflicted on her daughter.

This is typical of militant "Islamic" "civilization." Kipling was right
about the White Man's Burden: http://www.omdurman.org/burden.html


--Bill

http://www.omdurman.org/
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
2003-12-13 04:27:58 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023
Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'
By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
Cheer up, Bun.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/1004302.asp?cp1=1
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Bill Levinson
2003-12-13 04:38:40 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023
Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'
By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
Cheer up, Bun.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/1004302.asp?cp1=1
--
V.G.
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Pakistan court orders acid blinding
Culprit blinded his fiance; sentence could be overturned

MULTAN, Pakistan, Dec. 12 — A Pakistani man has been sentenced to be
blinded by acid after a judge found him guilty of doing the same to his
former fiancée, court officials said on Friday.
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(See above link for the rest.)

At least in this case the person who is to be subjected to a barbaric
Sharia punishment was actually guilty of committing a horrible crime
against another person. I do not agree with the sentence; it would be
far more productive to sentence this guy to 20 or 30 years of penal
servitude, the proceeds of which would be used to provide for his
victim. Conditions of any parole should require him to continue to work
and give the woman his wages.

Of course, in an Islamic country, it might be simpler to make the man
his victim's slave. He could be forced to serve her for life as a
2-legged guide dog, and to provide for her other needs. That would be
far more constructive than blinding him with acid.

--Bill

http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
Phaedrine Stonebridge
2003-12-13 05:36:47 UTC
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Post by Bill Levinson
At least in this case the person who is to be subjected to a barbaric
Sharia punishment was actually guilty of committing a horrible crime
against another person. I do not agree with the sentence; it would be
far more productive to sentence this guy to 20 or 30 years of penal
servitude, the proceeds of which would be used to provide for his
victim. Conditions of any parole should require him to continue to work
and give the woman his wages.
Of course, in an Islamic country, it might be simpler to make the man
his victim's slave. He could be forced to serve her for life as a
2-legged guide dog, and to provide for her other needs. That would be
far more constructive than blinding him with acid.
Oh I hink four-legged would be much better, don't you, after humanely
hobbling him of course. Yes, leash him and make him her slave. She
could use him as a mounting block or a foot stool. ;)
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
2003-12-13 04:32:20 UTC
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ABU QASH, West Bank — Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.
P.S. - When your own mother buys you a razor to slit your wrists, it's
probably time to be looking for other living arrangements.
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rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
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abdul rahim
2003-12-14 21:10:47 UTC
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x-no-archive: Yes

from an isolated incident you attack an entire, ancient religion.

The collective bigotry of you smug Westerners disgusts me.
Notroll2004
2003-12-14 21:44:00 UTC
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Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: Yes
from an isolated incident you attack an entire, ancient religion.
The collective bigotry of you smug Westerners disgusts me.
It's not all of us. Mostly just the ones who live in trailer parks, drink
beer for Christmas dinner and have close personal relationships with their
bothers and sisters.
w***@cablenet.com
2003-12-15 06:20:11 UTC
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Post by Notroll2004
It's not all of us. Mostly just the ones who live in trailer parks, drink
beer for Christmas dinner and have close personal relationships with their
bothers and sisters.
cool your jets Twerp, The Arab isn't interested in dating you.


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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
2003-12-18 02:50:26 UTC
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:44:00 -0600, "Notroll2004"
Post by Notroll2004
It's not all of us. Mostly just the ones who live in trailer parks, drink
beer for Christmas dinner and have close personal relationships with their
bothers and sisters.
cool your jets Twerp, The Arab isn't interested in dating you.
Yeah, he's too old to be a muslim butt-boy, but maybe he can go to
Cuber with Nemo? They're not as picky, apparently.
--
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rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
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The Holy Kafir
2003-12-14 23:04:43 UTC
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Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: Yes
This does not work, check google. Your message will exist for a very long
time.
Post by abdul rahim
from an isolated incident you attack an entire, ancient religion.
It's incident after incident after incident.
Post by abdul rahim
The collective bigotry of you smug Westerners disgusts me.
Being anti-islam is no more bigotry than being anti-nazi. As for what
disgusts you, no one cares. Smug enough for ya?
Bill Levinson
2003-12-15 03:05:24 UTC
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Post by abdul rahim
x-no-archive: Yes
from an isolated incident you attack an entire, ancient religion.
The collective bigotry of you smug Westerners disgusts me.
It's not an isolated incident, this is how these militant "Islamic"
societies conduct themselves. Kipling was 100 percent right about the
White Man's Burden. http://www.omdurman.org/burden.html


--Bill
http://www.omdurman.org/
Bill Levinson
2003-12-13 04:42:57 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of such
atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make excuses for Islamic
barbarism? Fucking why???
--
Keith
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8023
Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'
By Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
ABU QASH, West Bank — Raped by her brothers and impregnated, Rofayda
Qaoud refused to commit suicide, her mother recalls, even after she
bought the 17-year-old a razor with which to slit her wrists.
It's too bad the girl didn't use the razor on her mother's throat, thus
doing the world a favor. (And also on her subhuman brothers.)
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
So Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud says she did what she believes any good
Palestinian parent would: restored her family's "honor" through murder.
Armed with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, Qaoud entered her
sleeping daughter's room last Jan. 27. "Tonight you die, Rofayda," she
told the girl, before wrapping the bag tightly around her head.
Next, Qaoud sliced Rofayda's wrists, ignoring her muffled pleas of "No,
mother, no!" After her daughter went limp, Qaoud struck her in the head
with the stick.
Killing her sixth-born child took 20 minutes,
Qaoud tells a visitor through a stream of tears and cigarettes that she
smokes in rapid succession.
"She killed me before I killed her," says
the 43-year-old mother of nine.
She should be sterilized so she can have no more children who might
dishonor her by being raped.
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
"I had to protect my children. This is
the only way I could protect my family's honor."
The guilty brothers are in jail.
At least that's something. Does anyone still think these animals are fit
to govern themselves? (http://www.omdurman.org/burden.html)

We admittedly have people in the U.S. who do things like this. The
difference is that (for example) parents who were accused of drowning
their children are currently charged with first-degree murder, as
opposed to being allowed to give interviews while smoking cigarettes.

--Bill

http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
John Griffin
2003-12-13 05:07:33 UTC
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Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of
such atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make
excuses for Islamic barbarism? Fucking why???
It's all our fault that mohammedans behave the way our
ancestors, or at least the retarded ones, might have a thousand
years ago. Somehow, which no one seems to be able to explain
well, the superiority of western civilization is the thing which
keeps the poor slaves in religious servitude in the islamic
protocivilizations.

Imagine the noise we'd hear if a "Nordic" did something like
that. Most of the noise would be coming from the very same
"useful idiots" who ignore islam's routine murders and other
primitive behavior. That's part of the answer. There are few
"Nordic" moslems, so they're off limits to fanatic leftist
attacks.
Bill Levinson
2003-12-13 05:24:02 UTC
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Post by John Griffin
Post by Bunn E Rabbit
Where is the outrage by leftists and western feminists of
such atrocities? Why does the PC media ignore or make
excuses for Islamic barbarism? Fucking why???
It's all our fault that mohammedans behave the way our
ancestors, or at least the retarded ones, might have a thousand
years ago.
It's true, these things did happen in the West. Shakespeare portrays
Titus Andronicus killing his daughter Lavinia (who had been raped and
mutilated) after slitting her rapists' throats and serving them to their
mother as a pie. The play suggests that Lavinia did not resist this,
perhaps considering life not worth living because of her mutilation.
(Shakespeare does not say whether Titus recorded his recipe and passed
it down to Sweeney Todd the Demon Barber of Fleet Street, and Mrs.
Lovett of the famous meat pies.)

A recent movie about Boadicia has her daughter, who has been raped by a
Roman, asking to be set on fire with the Roman tied up in front of her
so she can hold on to him as she burns. Boadicia persuades her against
this, however.

In Henryk Sienkiewicz's "With Fire and Sword," the hero has to contend
with the possibility that his fiancee has been raped. If so, there is
nothing for her but the convent, while the hero will go to a monastery.

A woman who was violated was apparently considered "damaged goods"
although through no fault of her own. There is a folk song that shows
how some societies dealt with this. "If he be a married man, hanged he
shall be/ But if he be a single man, he shall marry thee." The idea was
apparently to force the rapist to provide for the woman he had "ruined"
because no one else would have her; if he was already married and could
not assume this obligation, he was put to death.
Post by John Griffin
Somehow, which no one seems to be able to explain
well, the superiority of western civilization is the thing which
keeps the poor slaves in religious servitude in the islamic
protocivilizations.
http://www.omdurman.org/burden.html for the superiority of Western
civilization over Islamofascist "civilizations."

--Bill
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