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Deir Yassin: History of a Lie

Introduction

For fifty years, critics of Israel have used the battle of Deir
Yassin to blacken the image of the Jewish State, alleging that Jewish
fighters massacred hundreds of Arab civilians during a battle in that
Arab village near Jerusalem in 1948.

This analysis brings to light, for the first time, a number of
important documents that have never previously appeared in English,
which help clarify what really happened in Deir Yassin on that fateful
day.

One is a research study conducted by a team of researchers from Bir
Zeit University, an Arab university now situated in Palestinian
Authority territory, concerning the history of Deir Yassin and the
details of the battle. The researchers interviewed numerous former
residents of the town and reached startling conclusions concerning the
actual number of people killed in the battle.

The second important work on this subject that has never previously
appeared in English, and which was consulted for this study, is a
history of the 1948 war by Professor Uri Milstein, one of Israel's most
distinguished military historians. His 13-volume study of the 1948 war
includes a section on Deir Yassin based on detailed interviews with the
participants in the battle and previously-unknown archival documents.
Professor Milstein's meticulous research has been praised by academics
from across the political spectrum.1

Another document used in this study is the protocols of a 1952
hearing, in which, for the first and only time, Israeli judges heard
eyewitness testimony from participants in the events at Deir Yassin and
issued a ruling that has important implications for understanding what
happened in that battle.

This study is also based upon a unique collection of testimonies
concerning the battle of Deir Yassin, by participants and eyewitnesses,
which are on file in Israel's Metzudat Ze'ev Archives and have never
before appeared in English.

The documents cited in this study were located in Israeli archives
by a team of researchers and legal scholars, with additional research
in the United States by Chaviva Rosenbluth.

Deir Yassin's Strategic Value

The Arab village of Deir Yassin was strategically situated on a
hill overlooking the main highway entering Jerusalem as well as a
number of Jerusalem's western neighborhoods. Estimates of the town's
population in 1948 vary. The last official British census, in 1945,
counted 610 residents, and Arab sources believe the number had grown to
750 by April 1948.2 The town was also host to several hundred temporary
residents who had relocated from other parts of Jerusalem which were
close to the battlefields where Arab and Jewish forces were clashing.3
But because of Deir Yassin's strategic location, it was almost
inevitable that it, too, would become a battle site.

The British Mandate authorities were scheduled to depart from
Palestine on May 15, 1948, and the surrounding Arabs states had vowed
to invade, in order to prevent the establishment of a Jewish State. But
long before that date, Arab and Jewish armies were already battling. An
"Arab Liberation Army," sponsored by the Arab League and manned by
volunteers from various Arab countries, attacked Jewish communities in
Palestine throughout the winter and spring of 1948. Their attacks on
Jewish traffic along major routes succeeded in cutting off western
Jerusalem from other areas.

The Jewish fighting forces consisted of three factions. The
largest, the Haganah, was affiliated with the Labor Zionists. The
second largest, the Irgun Zvai Leumi (IZL), was the underground group
led by Menachem Begin that had spearheaded the Jewish revolt against
the British during 1944-1947. The smallest was the Lehi (acronym for
Fighters for the Freedom of Israel; commonly called the Stern Group), a
splinter of the IZL. Relations between the Haganah, on the one hand,
and the IZL and Lehi, on the other, were tense at best. Although there
had been times when the two sides cooperated in the fight against the
British, there were also several periods when the Haganah had
collaborated with the British against the IZL and Lehi. The political
rivalry between the two camps was passionate and, indeed, the rivalry
between their heirs, the Labor and Likud parties, continues to this
day.

In recognition of the growing danger from Arab military operations,
the two sides began negotiating, in early 1948, to formally merge into
a single Zionist army. At the same time, there was increasing
cooperation between the two on various levels. Yehoshua Arieli,
Jerusalem commander of the Gadna, which was the Haganah's paramilitary
youth wing, recalled: "Before Deir Yassin, there was cooperation
between the Haganah and the IZL in Jerusalem...The cooperation was not
total, there were points of friction, but it held up."4 A draft merger
agreement between the Haganah and the IZL was reached in March. The
draft agreement, and the ongoing cooperation on the ground between the
two camps, ignited a fierce debate on the Zionist left. Mapam, the
influential left wing of the Labor Zionist camp, strongly opposed any
cooperation with the IZL, with whom they had strong ideological
differences. Mapam members and sympathizers within the Haganah lobbied
vigorously against the agreement during the weeks prior to, and
immediately after, the battle at Deir Yassin.5

At the same time, in early April 1948, the Haganah launched a major
military offensive against Arab strongholds in the western Jerusalem
area, in order to break the siege of western Jerusalem. IZL and Lehi
representatives met with the Haganah's commander for Jerusalem, David
Shaltiel, to discuss what action the IZL and Lehi could take to assist
the Haganah's offensive. It was in this context that the idea of
capturing Deir Yassin first arose. Exactly who first raised the idea of
targeting Deir Yassin is unclear. The chief of Lehi intelligence in
Jerusalem, Moshe Barzili, later said that Shaltiel was the first to
speak of Deir Yassin, in a discussion with Lehi commanders in early
April. According to Barzili, Shaltiel said, "If you want to help and to
initiate an action, take Deir Yassin." Shaltiel said that the Haganah
intended to build an airfield between Deir Yassin and the adjacent
Jewish neighborhood of Givat Shaul. Mordechai Ra'anan, the IZL
commander for Jerusalem, likewise recalled discussing with Shaltiel the
idea of attacking Deir Yassin, with the two of them agreeing on the
strategic value of its capture.6 On April 7, Shaltiel sent Ra'anan a
note:

I have learned that you intend to act against Deir Yassin. I would
like to draw your attention to the fact that the capture and holding of
Deir Yassin are one stage in our general plan. I have no opposition to
you carrying out the action, provided that you have the forces to hold
it. If you cannot I would hereby warn you against blowing up the
village which will lead to its abandonment by the residents and the
seizure of the ruins and the abandoned houses by foreign forces. Such
an eventuality will hinder rather than help the general effort, and a
reconquest of the place will entail great losses of our men. Another
reason I would like to present to you is that if foreign forces are
drawn to the place, it will disrupt our plan to construct an
airfield."7

When Shimon Monita, a Haganah spy who was infiltrating the Lehi,
caught wind of the IZL-Lehi plan to attack Deir Yassin, he rushed to
report the news to his contact man in Haganah intelligence, evidently
unaware of the high-level coordination between Haganah, IZL and Lehi
regarding the planned attack. Monita's contact reassured him, "That's
okay."8

On the afternoon of Thursday, April 8, according to Lehi officer
Moshe Idelstein, he met at the Allenby cafe in Jerusalem with a
representative of the 4th Brigade of the Palmach, the Haganah's mobile
strike division. The Palmach man conveyed Shaltiel's request that the
attack on Deir Yassin be coordinated with the Haganah's imminent
assault on the nearby Arab town of Kastel and a plan to send a convoy
along the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv road. That night, Idelstein recalled, "I
went with one of the Palmach's convoy escorts, Avri Elad, along the
convoy parked on the road in Beit Hakerem, and we discussed final
coordination."9 Lehi's Patchia Zalivensky and Mordechai Ben-Uziahu
later recalled that the group's Jerusalem commander, Yehoshua Zettler,
sent them to inform Zalman Meret, chief of the Haganah's Moriah
brigade, that Lehi agreed to coordinate the attack on Deir Yassin with
the action against Kastel and the convoy. They then discussed battle
tactics and communications protocols. They also agreed, at Shaltiel's
request, to exchange a quantity of explosives, which Lehi possessed in
abundance, for a case of Bren machine-gun bullets. According to
Zalivensky, Meret's parting words were: "Do it and succeed."10

Later that evening (April 8), according to Lehi members, Meret met
with several Lehi representatives at his home, in the Beit Hakerem
neighborhood of Jerusalem. Lehi's Moshe Barzili, who took part in the
meeting, later recalled:

Meret asked, in the name of Shaltiel, that we attack [Deir Yassin]
on Friday April 9, at dawn, in order to help the re-conquest of Kastel.
We requested from him a vehicle, ammunition and food, and he
immediately agreed to our request. We brought the request to attack at
dawn to [Lehi Jerusalem commander Yehoshua] Zettler and [IZL Jerusalem
commander Mordechai] Ra'anan for their decision."11

Zettler later recalled: "In Lehi, there were many who were strictly
Orthodox, and I tried not to have actions on the Sabbath. An attack on
Friday morning would be liable to bring us to operational activities on
the Sabbath, but after I received Shaltiel's urgent request via Dror
[Mordechai Ben-Uziahu] I agreed to attack on Friday at dawn."12

Additional evidence of the coordination between Haganah and the
IZL-Lehi forces regarding Deir Yassin is to be found in a report sent
by Haganah district intelligence officer Mordechai Gihon to Meret on
April 10, the day after the battle: "Assistance to the dissidents by
us. The dissidents' liaison officer informed us of H-hour. We gave our
positions appropriate instructions regarding assistance during retreat
and medical aid."13 Gihon later recalled that his commanders in the
Haganah told him there was an agreement between the Haganah and the IZL
and Lehi regarding the attack on Deir Yassin, with the Haganah
responsible for blocking the way between Deir Yassin and Ein Kerem in
case enemy forces sought to reach the town. His commanders instructed
Gihon to set up a Spandau machine gun on the nearby Sharafa ridge
[which today is known as Mount Herzl] in order to control the pass by
gunfire. Gihon and a comrade slept in Givat Shaul on the night of
Thursday, April 8, in order to reach their assigned position by dawn on
April 9.14 Likewise, a post-battle internal Haganah intelligence report
about Deir Yassin stated: "Before the battle, IZL men shared the
details of their plan in a meeting with Haganah representatives,
including H-hour. At that same meeting, it was decided that if the IZL
would be forced to retreat, Haganah forces would cover the retreating
force."15

At midnight on Thursday, April 8, an IZL force of 72 men, commanded
by Benzion Cohen with deputy commanders Yehuda Lapidot and Michael
Sharif, reached Beit Hakerem. An hour later, they set out on foot
toward Deir Yassin, where they would rendezvous with a Lehi force of 60
men. On the way, according to Lapidot, they encountered a Haganah
patrol. "We told them that we were going to attack Deir Yassin,"
Lapidot recalled, "and they blessed us 'Good luck, good luck'."16

Deir Yassin's record of anti-Jewish violence

Some historians later expressed surprise at the choice of Deir
Yassin as a target, in view of what they regarded as the village's
peaceful history. In fact, Deir Yassin served as a center of weapons
trafficking during the violent Palestinian Arab outbreaks in 1920; Deir
Yassin residents had carried out violent attacks on the Jews of Givat
Shaul in October 1928; and during the August 1929 Arab riots throughout
Palestine, the villagers of Deir Yassin had again assaulted their
Jewish neighbors in Givat Shaul as well as Jews in the Beit Hakerem
neighborhood and the Montefiore Quarter.17 A Jewish fighter who was
stationed in Givat Shaul to help defend the village against Arab
attacks during the violence 1936 later recalled how

we continually faced attempted forays into our homes from Deir
Yassin. We dug out our 'illegal' weapons every night and waited, while
the Jewish supplementary police [part of the British Mandate police
force] repulsed the infiltrators again and again. Months later, we had
a defense position in nearby Motza [and the commander] often asked my
help to transport men to their night duties in Motza. Driving back and
forth to Motza from Jerusalem, I spent many hours lying in roadside
ditches after ambushes out of Deir Yassin.18

In late 1947, as Arab-Jewish hostilities intensified, the Deir
Yassin village leadership agreed to an informal truce with their Jewish
neighbors, with both sides promising to refrain from attacking each
other. Some historians have claimed that Deir Yassin's leaders
initially rebuffed a proposal to station Syrian or Iraqi units of the
Arab Liberation Army in their village. But by March 1948, there were
numerous reports of Arab soldiers taking up positions in Deir Yassin.
Haganah driver Arnold Shper testified in a 1952 judicial proceeding
that during his posting in Givat Shaul in February and March 1948, he
spoke with Haganah intelligence agents who mentioned "that foreign
Arabs had been detected in Deir Yassin, [including] Iraqis." Jerusalem
Haganah intelligence officer Mordechai Gihon led two reconnaissance
sorties into Ein Kerem, adjacent to Deir Yassin, and returned with
documents revealing regular contacts between Deir Yassin and the bases
of Syrian and Iraqi volunteer soldiers in Ein Kerem. On March 30, Gihon
reported to his superiors that "150 men, mostly Iraqis, entered Deir
Yassin."19 Some of the Haganah's information about developments in Deir
Yassin was coming directly from inside the village itself. A Haganah
agent code-named "Ovadia," working in the Jerusalem area for the
Haganah's Arabic Department, met regularly with Deir Yassin residents
as well as their mukhtar, or village chief, who was a paid Haganah
informant.20

During the week prior to the IZL-Lehi action against Deir Yassin,
there were a spate of shooting attacks from the village aimed at Jewish
targets in the area. On Friday night, April 2, gunfire from the Deir
Yassin area raked the adjacent Jewish neighborhoods of Beit Hakerem and
Bayit Vegan.21 On Sunday, April 4, commander Shaltiel received an
urgent message from the intelligence officer of the Haganah's Etzioni
division: "There's a gathering in Deir Yassin. Armed men left [from
Deir Yassin] in the direction of [the nearby town of] lower Motza,
northwest of Givat Shaul. They are shooting at passing cars."22 That
same day , the deputy commander of the Haganah's Beit Horon brigade,
Michael Hapt reported to Shaltiel: "A [Jewish] passenger car from Motza
was attacked near the flour mill, below Deir Yassin, and is stopped
there. There is rifle fire upon it. You too send an armoured vehicle
with weapons. There is concern that the road is cut off."23 An armoured
vehicle carrying Lehi fighters was also attacked at the same spot that
day. A Haganah intelligence officer who described the incident to his
superiors reported that according to Lehi officer David Gottlieb, those
of his men who disembarked from their vehicle to return fire said that
the attackers appeared to be Arab soldiers rather than local
villagers.24 A telegram from Michael Hapt, of the Haganah's Beit Horon
brigade, to the Haganah command, at 5:00 p.m. that day, urged: "In
order to prevent [an attack] on lower Motza, cutting off of road to
Jerusalem, and capture of position south of Tzova, Deir Yassin must be
captured."25

Shortly before the battle of Deir Yassin, there was additional
troubling news: Mordechai Gihon's lookouts reported that numerous armed
men were moving between Ein Kerem and Deir Yassin. Some of the soldiers
were wearing Iraqi uniforms, and while many of them had entered Deir
Yassin, only a few had returned to Ein Kerem.26 And just hours before
the IZL-Lehi action against Deir Yassin began, Shaltiel cabled his
colleague Shimon Avidan: "The Arabs in Deir Yassin have trained a
mortar on the highway in order to shell the convoy [bringing supplies
to besieged Jewish portions of Jerusalem]."27

Begin vetoed mistreatment of civilians

Until the spring of 1948, the IZL and Lehi had been underground
guerrilla movements engaged in hit-and-run attacks on British targets.
Deir Yassin would mark the first time that they would undertake an
actual battle with Arab forces. During the pre-battle briefings, the
question of dealing with civilians and prisoners was discussed.
According to Benzion Cohen and Yehuda Lapidot, the commander and deputy
commander of the IZL force that took part in the battle, some of the
Lehi representatives favored "killing anyone that opposed us" during
the battle, regardless of age or gender. The issue was put before IZL
commander-in-chief Menachem Begin, who vetoed any mistreatment of
civilians or prisoners, and insisted that the attackers use a
loudspeaker to urge Deir Yassin's residents to flee prior to the
battle, even though that meant surrendering the advantage of
surprise.28 Zettler gave his men explicit orders to avoid harming women
and children.29 Even Meir Pa'il, a militant opponent of the IZL and
Lehi, later acknowledged: "I learned that during their planning someone
tried to suggest a massacre-- 'if we, the IZL and Lehi are finally
going to do a joint operation, the Arabs should know it'. There were
some hooligans who suggested it. The commanders were opposed. There was
an explicit decision against it."30

The attackers did their best to implement Begin's directive. The
first of the Jewish fighting units to reach Deir Yassin was led by a
truck armed with a loudspeaker. An Iraqi-born Jew, who spoke fluent
Arabic, called out to the residents to leave via the western exit from
Deir Yassin, which the attackers had left clear for that purpose. Soon
after entering the town, however, the truck was hit by Arab gunfire and
careened into a ditch. Repeated efforts by Lehi men to extract the
truck, while under fire, proved unsuccessful. Whether or not the
truck's message was heard by the villagers is unclear. Several hundred
Deir Yassin residents did flee, although it is not clear if they were
responding to the announcements, the sound of gunfire, or word-of-mouth
warnings from fellow-villagers close to the battle sites.

Every house was turned into an armed military post

The IZL and Lehi commanders had expected that large numbers of the
residents would flee, and the remaining would surrender, perhaps after
token resistance. Instead, both groups of Jewish soldiers, entering the
town from different sides, immediately encountered fierce volleys of
Arab rifle fire, some of it from the foreign troops who had been
reported in the area. IZL deputy commander Michael Harif, who was one
of the first to enter Deir Yassin, later recalled how, early in the
battle, "I saw a man in khaki run ahead. I thought he was one of us, I
ran after him and told him, 'Move ahead to that house!' Suddenly he
turned, pointed his weapon at me and fired. He was an Iraqi soldier. I
was wounded in the leg."31 Lehi's Patchiah Zalivensky later recalled
that among the Arab soldiers killed by his unit was a Yugoslavian
Muslim officer, whose identification papers indicated he had been with
the all-Muslim units of the Nazi SS that had been organized in
Yugoslavia during World War II by Haj Amin el-Husseini, the Palestinian
Arab leader and Nazi collaborator.32 In an alleyway, Lehi soldier Ezra
Yachin came face to face with an Arab armed with a rifle. Instantly he
started to release the bolt. The measure of those fearful seconds! Who
would shoot first? Who would survive? It was I who pulled the trigger
first--but it didn't work. My foe turned to leap over an old wall, and
as he did so he shot at me. I felt a pain in my right thigh...Dror
[Mordechai Ben-Uziahu] had clambered up onto a rooftop from where he
was able to spot my assailant who was dressed in the uniform of an
Iraqi officer, and shot him.33

The substantial quantities of weapons and ammunition that the IZL
and Lehi men found in Deir Yassin provided additional confirmation of
earlier suspicions that the village had been turning into a
heavily-armed Arab military post. Yehuda Lapidot, deputy commander of
the IZL force in Deir Yassin, later recalled: "A cache of ammunition
for English rifles which we found in the village saved the day. We
filled the clips for the Bren [machine-gun], distributed weapons to the
boys and fought on." In another house, IZL fighter Yehoshua Gorodenchik
discovered an additional 20 clips of ammunition for the Bren gun.34
Lehi soldiers David Gottlieb, Moshe Barzili, and Moshe Idelstein found
a huge quantity of Czech rifle bullets which did not fit their rifles;
they offered to trade 6,000 of them to the Haganah for 3,000 British
bullets.35

The Jewish fighters' advance into Deir Yassin was painstakingly
slow because of the intense Arab firepower. The IZL's Reuven Greenberg
reported later that "the Arabs fought like lions and excelled at
accurate sniping." He also noted that "[Arab] women ran from the houses
under fire, collected the weapons which had fallen from the hands of
Arab fighters who had been wounded, and brought them back into the
houses."36 There were also instances in which, after storming a house,
dead Arab women were found with guns in their hands, indicating that
they had taken part in the battle.37 "To take a house," Ezra Yachin
recalled, "you had either to throw a grenade or shoot your way into it.
If you were foolish enough to open doors, you got shot down--sometimes
by men dressed up as women, shooting out at you in a second of
surprise."38

When they tried to storm some of the individual stone houses, the
Lehi fighters were surprised to discover that most of the homes had
doors made of iron, not wood as their pre-battle briefings had led them
to believe. The attackers had no choice but to attach powerful
explosives to the doors to blow them open, and a number of the
inhabitants were inadvertently killed or wounded in the explosions.39
Slowly, house by house, the Lehi forces advanced.

On the other side of the village, meanwhile, the IZL soldiers were
having less success. By 7:00 a.m., the IZL commanders, stymied by the
Arab resistance and their own mounting casualties, sent a messenger to
the Lehi camp that they were seriously considering retreating from the
town altogether. The Lehi commanders told the messenger to inform the
IZL that Lehi had already penetrated the village and expected victory
soon. The IZL quickly arranged to receive a supply of explosives from
their base in Givat Shaul, and proceeded to blast their way into house
after house. In some cases, entire sections of the houses collapsed
from the force of the explosion, burying the Arab soldiers as well as
civilians who were still inside. It is unclear if the civilians had
chosen to stay of their own free, or were held hostage by Arab soldiers
who thought that their presence would deter the Jewish forces--a tactic
frequently employed by Arab terrorists in southern Lebanon in our own
era.40 At the same time, there were numerous instances of Arabs
emerging from the houses and surrendering; more than 100 were taken
prison by the end of the day. At least two Haganah members who were on
the scene later recalled hearing the Lehi repeatedly using a
loudspeaker to implore the residents to surrender.41 There were also
instances in which Arabs feigned surrender, then produced hidden
weapons and shot at their would-be Jewish captors.42

The Haganah played a crucial role in the battle

Meanwhile, on the nearby Sharafa ridge, the Haganah's Mordechai
Gihon watched as a stream of Arab fighters and civilians fled from Deir
Yassin, and as Arab reinforcements from Ein Kerem and Malcha began
advancing toward the town from the south. "We fired bursts from the
Spandau machine-gun onto the road," Gihon reported to his superiors.
"We hit Arabs fleeing from Deir Yassin and we blocked their way. We
prevented the advance of the reinforcements, and we also might have hit
some IZL men who entered our line of fire. At about 8:30 a.m. we
returned to Givat Shaul." Haganah men in adjoining areas also sprayed
gunfire in the same direction, to prevent the reinforcements from
advancing.43

The Haganah also played a crucial role in the battle itself. After
conquering most of the village, the IZL and Lehi forces were stalled at
the house of the mukhtar, or village leader, which was situated on a
hill from which incessant rifle fire was directed at the Jewish forces.
In response to the attackers' appeal, a Haganah unit arrived with
two-inch mortars and proceeded to pummel the mukhtar's stronghold,
which soon fell.44 While the mortar unit was at work, IZL Jerusalem
commander Mordechai Ra'anan was meeting with David Shaltiel in nearby
Givat Shaul, at Shaltiel's request, according to testimony Ra'anan gave
in a 1952 legal case:

This was in the midst of the operation, at 1:00 or 2:00 in the
afternoon.

To the best of my recollection, it was on a street in Givat Shaul.
In his opinion, we had taken on a job far beyond our capabilities, and
he spoke with a certain ridicule, but in earnest. I asked him if that
[ridicule] was the only reason he had called me to meet with him, and
he asked me if we needed any help, and I replied that we required no
further assistance. Because at that time, a unit of Haganah men which
had returned from the battles of Motza had offered --or the commander
of that unit had offered-- assistance, and the operation itself was at
the mopping-up stage.45

The Haganah unit returning from Motza was sent into Deir Yassin to
aid the dozens of wounded IZL and Lehi fighters. "In order to extricate
the wounded, we had to eliminate the sources of gunfire," recalled
Haganah unit leader Moshe Eren. Kalman Rosenblatt, a member of one of
the two Haganah units that entered the village to assist the wounded,
said: "We threw hand grenades into the houses before we entered them."
The Haganah soldiers were more effective than the IZL and Lehi forces,
Lehi's David Gottlieb recalled. "They achieved in one hour what we
could not accomplish in several hours. They had good weapons, and they
had battle experience."46

No evidence that Arab prisoners were mistreated

When the battle ended, in the late morning, the IZL and Lehi found
themselves with about 40 Arab prisoners, mostly women and children, as
well as some elderly people. They were loaded on two trucks and driven
to a Lehi camp in Jerusalem's Sheikh Bader neighborhood. According to
the camp guards, the Arabs were given food and water, held there until
the late afternoon, and then transported to a nearby Arab section of
the city and released. Meanwhile, during the course of the afternoon, a
small number of additional Arab survivors of the battle were found in
some of the houses in Deir Yassin. They were put on a truck and driven
towards Jerusalem's Arab sector, passing through downtown Jerusalem and
the Orthodox neighborhood of Meah Shearim on the way. According to
Lehi's Moshe Barzili, the purpose of the prisoner transport was
"strictly humanitarian," to bring the survivors to an Arab area. Shimon
Monita, the Haganah spy in Lehi, contended that the IZL and Lehi
commanders deliberately chose a travel route that would take the truck
through central Jerusalem, hoping that the sight of enemy prisoners
"would lift the morale of the Jewish public," which had been depressed
by the grueling Arab siege that had cut them off from much of the rest
of the country. Some later accounts claimed that Jewish passersby in
the streets cursed or even spat at the Arab prisoners. But according to
Natan Yellin-Mor, one of Lehi's three commanders-in-chief, the hostile
reception was from Orthodox Jews who were angry at the driver, not the
prisoners, for bringing the vehicle in to their neighborhood after the
onset of the Sabbath.47

A young Haganah officer named Meir Pa'il later gave a very
different account of what happened to the prisoners, as well as what
happened in Deir Yassin in general. Pa'il played an active role in the
Haganah's operations against the IZL and Lehi during the 1940s, earning
a promotion, in late 1947, to the post of commander of a Haganah
Intelligence Service unit devoted to combating the "dissidents" in the
Jerusalem region. There were ten men under Pa'il's command, including
intelligence officers, infantry men, and members of the Palmach, the
Haganah's mobile strike force. On March 18, 1948, much to Pa'il's
dismay, Haganah official Yisrael Galili ordered that the unit be
disbanded and its members reassigned to the military police. Pa'il
appealed to David Cohen, overall coordinator of actions against the IZL
and Lehi, for a budget "in order to continue the unit." His request was
denied, and the unit disbanded. At the time of the battle of Deir
Yassin, on April 9, Pa'il was out of work--and possibly looking for
ways to convince his superiors that the behavior of the IZL and Lehi
still merited a special squad under his command.48 Pa'il would later
become active on the fringe-left of Israeli politics, serving as a
Member of Knesset for the Moked Party, a faction of Israel's Communist
Party.

According to Pa'il, "a day or two before the Deir Yassin episode, I
met a friend, a Lehi man, Moshe Idelstein, who was once in the
Palmach--though I do not think that he knew what my assignment was in
Jerusalem--and he told me that the IZL and Lehi were going out to
attack Deir Yassin and that I ought to come and see them in action."
Idelstein, by contrast, told historian Uri Milstein: "I knew exactly
what Pa'il's assignment had been; I never told him about our plans to
attack Deir Yassin or anywhere else, and therefore I never invited him
to come along."49

There are other statements in the accounts that Pa'il has given
over the years which raise questions about his credibility as a witness
concerning Deir Yassin. For example, in a 1981 interview, Pa'il said of
Deir Yassin: "It was not situated on any important route. Its strategic
value was zero."50 Pa'il said he went to Deir Yassin on the morning of
the battle, accompanied by a young photographer. "I suddenly started to
hear shots from all over the village. I ran with [the photographer],
and I saw group of IZL and Lehi men running from house to house,
entering, and with gunfire slaughtering the people sleeping there,
spontaneously [i.e. not on orders from above]." Needless to say, the
notion that the Arab residents would have been sleeping in the midst of
a huge battle hardly seems plausible. It is also difficult to
understand how Pa'il could have seen the "slaughtering" without
actually being present inside the houses. According to Pa'il, "I ran
after them and started to shout, 'What are you doing?' They looked at
me like I was crazy, and the photographer took pictures."51

In contrast to Pa'il's claim of a dramatic confrontation between
himself the IZL and Lehi men, the veterans of the battle interviewed by
Milstein, including Yehoshua Zettler, Mordechai Ra'anan, Moshe Barzili,
Yehuda Lapidot, Patchia Zalvensky, and Moshe Idelstein, all said that
Pa'il was not at Deir Yassin and that it was inconceivable he could
have been there without their knowledge. Nor is there any evidence from
Haganah sources indicating that Pa'il was present; the statements given
by David Shaltiel, Zalman Meret, Zion Eldad, and Yeshurun Schiff do not
mention Pa'il by name or by either of his code names, "Avraham" and
"Ram." The Haganah's Moshe Eren and Mordechai Gihon, who were at Deir
Yassin and who knew Pa'il personally at the time, said they did not see
him there. Yehoshua Arieli, who supervised the burials, stated that he
did not see Pa'il there. Shlomo Havilov, the Haganah's commander for
western Jerusalem, who spent the night of April 9 in Givat Shaul,
stated: "I did not see Meir Pa'il there. I knew him well. If he had
been there I would remember him."52

As for the identity of the photographer, Pa'il has consistently
refused to name him, saying he "is fearful."53 Pa'il claimed that the
photographer took "36 pictures, some during the battle, some after."54
According to Pa'il, he submitted the photos, together with a report he
compiled about the event, to his Haganah superior, Yisrael Galili, and
they are presently stored as classified material in the Israel Defense
Forces Archives. Galili later confirmed that he received a report and
photographs from Pa'il, but could not recall precisely what was in the
report or what the photos showed.55 Pa'il's claim that some of the
photos revealed an actual massacre in progress has been disputed by the
IDF Archives, which, while not releasing the report or the photographs,
has said that the photographs show dead bodies, without any way of
knowing how or when they were killed.56

Regarding the prisoners, Pa'il is the source of the only claim that
the Jewish fighters massacred a number of Arab prisoners after the
battle. He alleged that a group of about 20 prisoners were "paraded"
through Jerusalem, then brought back to a quarry near Deir Yassin and
massacred.57 Pa'il's allegation has been denied by the the Haganah
commander in Givat Shaul, Yona Ben-Sasson, who testified that several
hotheads considered the idea of taking prisoners to the quarry and
killing them, but that he personally talked them out of it.58

Exaggerations by the Red Cross

On April 10, the day after the battle, Jacques de Reynier, the
chief Red Cross representative in Jerusalem, "received a call from the
Arabs asking me to go immediately to the village of Deir Yassin, where
the civilian population of the whole village had just been massacred."
De Reynier's memoirs give no indication that he harbored any doubts as
to the veracity of the allegation. When he set out for Deir Yassin on
April 11, he already seems to have been expecting to encounter the
aftermath of a massacre.59

De Reynier's account brimmed with hostility towards the Jewish
side. As he told it, it was a dramatic tale of a brave humanitarian who
again and again narrowly --and miraculously-- escaped from
life-threatening situations to bring the world the truth about the
Jewish mass-murderers. The first IZL commander he met on the scene
supposedly "had a peculiar glitter in his eyes, cold and cruel." A
female Jewish fighter he encountered was "a beautiful young girl with
criminal eyes." The IZL-Lehi fighters were "these criminals."60

De Reynier's recollections were colorful, but often strained the
bounds of believability. Reaching the outskirts of Deir Yassin, his car
was stopped by "two soldier-like individuals, whose look were far from
reassuring, with machine-guns in their hands, and large cutlasses in
their belts." It seemed that "everything was lost," de Reynier
recalled-- "when, suddenly, a huge fellow, at least two meters tall and
as large as a cupboard, appeared, pushed his comrades aside, and seized
my hand and squeezed it in his enormous paws, shouting
incomprehensibly." According to de Reynier, his anonymous rescuer was a
Jew who had been aided by the Red Cross when he was a prisoner of the
Nazis, so now he would help de Reynier. "With such a bodyguard I felt I
could go to the end of the world," de Reynier wrote.61 Elsewhere in his
account, de Reynier affectionately referred to the man as "my
'wardrobe'" and "my good friend the glass cupboard."62

In fact, the man to whom de Reynier referred was not, as Reynier
suggested, a secret savior whose gratitude to the Red Cross had moved
him to switch sides and help de Reynier reveal the truth about Jewish
savagery.

He was Lehi intelligence officer Moshe Barzili, chosen by his
superiors to escort de Reynier because he and the Red Cross official
both spoke German. He was not sneaking de Reynier into Deir Yassin; he
was sent by Lehi to give Reynier a detailed tour of the battle site.63
The Jewish fighters gave de Reynier permission to enter because they
had committed no atrocities and had nothing to hide. The significance
of this point was apparently lost on de Reynier, however. His account
makes it seems as if he somehow managed to enter the village against
the Jewish fighters' will--a feat that hardly seems possible. At
another point in his memoir of the visit, de Reynier claims that when
he wanted to enter one of the Arab houses, "a dozen soldiers surrounded
me, their machine-guns aimed at my body," yet he "pushed them aside and
went in to the house." When he tried to carry a wounded Arab from the
house, "the officer tried to stop me" but "I pushed him aside." Is it
plausible that an unarmed Red Cross representative repeatedly "pushed
aside" machine-gun toting Jewish soldiers? Barzili later recalled that
the Lehi leadership agreed to permit de Reynier to visit precisely
because of the rumors of a massacre. A Jewish policeman in the British
Mandatory government with whom Lehi had contact, Shlomo Sofer, informed
them that "there were rumors a massacre had taken place in the village,
and that a Red Cross representative wanted to visit it. We hoped that
with de Reynier's help, the rumors would be dispelled."64

As he inspected the village, de Reynier recalled, he was
accompanied by "a Jewish doctor" who had been summoned by the Red Cross
office. The doctor "followed me courageously" from house to house. That
was Dr. Alfred Engel of Magen David Adom, Palestine Jewry's equivalent
of a Red Cross. Engel's later descriptions of what he saw, however,
differed from de Reynier's in significant respects.

According to de Reynier, the Arab residents of Deir Yassin numbered
"approximately 400, never armed." He did not explain the discrepancy
between his claim that they were "never armed" and the fact that they
shot to death 4 of the Jewish fighters and wounded several dozen more.
In the houses he examined, de Reynier saw a number of bodies of Arabs
whom, he claimed, had been killed by "machine-guns, then hand grenades.
It had been finished off with knives, anyone could see that." He found
three survivors, a child and two elderly women. "There had been 400
people in this village," de Reynier's account continued. "About 50 of
them had escaped, and were still alive. All the rest had been
deliberately massacred in cold blood..." According to de Reynier, he
then visited local Arab leaders to ask what should be done with the
corpses and, upon their request, he returned to Deir Yassin to ask that
they be buried on the site.65

The "Jewish doctor" was Dr. Alfred Engel of Magen David Adom,
Palestine Jewry's equivalent of a Red Cross. In contrast to de
Reynier's hair-raising tales about trying to get into Deir Yassin,
Engel recalled that "We entered the village easily. The only ones there
were the dissidents [IZL and Lehi]," and they were busy "loading bodies
onto trucks." Engel accompanied de Reynier into the houses. "In the
houses there were casualties, a total of about 100 men, women, and
children," he recalled. "It was terrible. I did not see any signs of
defilement, mutilation, or rape." It is noteworthy that in contrast to
de Reynier, who claimed that many of the dead Arabs had been "finished
off with knives, anyone could see that," Dr. Engel, who saw the corpses
along with de Reynier, made no reference to seeing anyone who had been
"finished off with knives." Engel's estimate of 100 dead also
contrasted sharply with de Reynier's of 350.66

The Haganah's accusation

The reason so many corpses were still visible when de Reynier
arrived was that David Shaltiel was locked in a fierce dispute with the
IZL and Lehi over how to dispose of the bodies. The IZL and Lehi units,
exhausted from the battle and nursing dozens of their wounded, were not
up to the task of burying the unexpectedly large number of dead bodies.
Nor did they intend to do garrison duty. Their commanders informed
Shaltiel that they were anxious to return to their bases, and requested
that he provided soldiers to occupy the village. Shaltiel was furious;
he neither wanted to divert soldier from other areas to take over Deir
Yassin, nor had he expected to be saddled with the burden of dealing
with burial problems. After heated arguments with the IZL and Lehi
leaders, Shaltiel finally sent a small Haganah force to the village,
followed by a group of members of Gadna, the Haganah's paramilitary
youth group, to handle the burials.67

Among the young buriers was Yair Tsaban, later a Knesset Member and
longtime leader of the leftwing Mapam Party. Tsaban, arriving after the
battle was over, and could not have witnessed how the Arabs were
killed. In an interview with author Eric Silver, Tsaban gave no
indication that he had any idea whether the deceased had been
massacred, or killed inadvertently amidst the firefights and
explosions. All he could do was speculate: since he came across "two or
three cases of old men dressed in women's clothes" among the deceased,
"My conclusion was that what happened in the village so terrorized
these old men that they knew being old men would not save them. They
hoped that if they were seen as old women that would save them."68
Tsaban's retrospective assumption may be interesting, but there is no
evidence to support it. An equally plausible theory is that while the
old men feared the Jews might massacre the men --just as the Arabs
often massacred their Jewish prisoners-- and therefore dressed as
women, in fact had they been captured alive, they would have been
spared. Instead, they lost their lives because they were caught in the
crossfire or in the dynamited houses, not because of any massacre. In
contrast to de Reynier's claims, Tsaban told author Eric Silver that he
--who reached Deir Yassin two days before de Reynier-- saw no blood on
the clothing of the Jewish fighters and "I saw no evidence of killing
by knives."69

Another leftwing activist, Uri Avnery, claimed to have elicited
semi-confessions from some of the participants after the battle.
Avnery's objectivity must be carefully weighed, in view of his long
record of extremist political activity, including serving as editor of
the extreme-left magazine Haolam Hazeh from 1950 to 1990, and serving
as a Knesset Member for two far-left parties, Haolam Hazeh and Sheli,
from 1965-1981. Concerning Deir Yassin, Avnery wrote in his 1968 book
Israel Without Zionists that "all the inhabitants of the village who
had not fled were massacred"--going considerably further than even many
of the others who have charged there was a massacre. Avnery added:
"Later, I tried to interrogate the soldiers who took part in the
action. They maintained that the massacre was not premeditated, that
their local commander lost his head after some of his men were killed
by Arab snipers." Avnery provided no dates for the alleged
"interrogations"; none of the names of the individuals whom he
supposedly interrogated; and no actual quotations from them, whether
confessional or otherwise.70

Shaltiel's disputes with the IZL and Lehi over who would occupy the
town after the battle, and over the burial problem, appear to have
kindled his wrath. There was no love lost between Shaltiel and the
"dissidents"; indeed, in 1946-1947, as head of Haganah intelligence, he
had played an active role in the Haganah's operations against the IZL
and Lehi.71 Now he would take one last shot at his old enemies.
Shaltiel, in consultation with his superiors in the Jewish Agency, and
perhaps motivated by a desire to undermine the pending IZL-Haganah
merger agreement, Shaltiel decided to go on the offensive. He told
reporters that he had no advance knowledge of the plan to attack Deir
Yassin, and that the Haganah had taken no part in the battle.
Simultaneously, the Jewish Agency issued a statement expressing its
"horror and disgust" at the "barbaric" behavior of the IZL and Lehi in
Deir Yassin, and sent a cable to Transjordanian ruler King Abdullah,
expressing regrets and condolences for what had happened.72 Surprised
by Shaltiel's turnaround, the IZL promptly released the text of his
April 7 note approving the attack. Years later, the Israeli Defense
Ministry published a history of the 1948 war in which Shaltiel was
quoted as admitting that he knew in advance of the Deir Yassin attack.
Although he did not concede the full extent of his cooperation in the
planning of the attack, Shaltiel said: "I cannot claim that I did not
know about the action. A day before the action [Thursday, April 8],
Yeshurun Schiff informed me of it"--completely contradicting his claim,
immediately after the battle, that he had no advance knowledge of it.73


After the 1948 war, four wounded Deir Yassin veterans applied to
the Israeli Defense Ministry for the standard benefits provided to
injured Israeli soldiers by Israel's Disabled Persons Act (Benefits and
Rehabilitation) of 1949. The Ministry rejected the request on the
grounds that the battle at Deir Yassin did not qualify as "military
service," since the government defined "military service" as "organized
activity against the Arab gangs and the invading armies." The veterans
sued, hoping that the principles of judicial fairness would overcome
political partisanship, especially once the passions of the war had
subsided. They took their case to the Defense Ministry's Board of
Appeals, a judicial body panel consisting of three judges. The Board,
after hearing testimony from participants in the battle, ruled that it
did indeed fit the Ministry's definition of "military service."74

The British "coaxed" the witnesses

Arab propagandists routinely claim that the Jewish fighters raped
Arab women during the Deir Yassin battle, but evidence to support the
allegation is lacking. To begin with, the charge of sexual assault is
completely at variance with the behavior of Jewish soldiers throughout
both the 1948 war and subsequent Arab-Israeli wars. (By contrast, Arabs
frequently raped Jewish women during Arab attacks on Jewish
communities, such as the 1929 riots in Hebron.)

As noted earlier, Dr. Engel, who accompanied Jacques de Reynier of
the Red Cross, reported that he "did not see any signs of defilement,
mutilation, or rape."75 Daniel Spicehandler, a member of a Haganah unit
sent to assist the IZL, said later: "So far as I saw, there was no rape
or looting."76 An Arab survivor of the Deir Yassin battle, Muhammad
Arif Sammour, told author Eric Silver emphatically that there were no
sexual attacks. Silver wrote: "Sammour, who has no reason to minimize
the atrocities, is convinced that there were no sexual assault: 'I
didn't hear or see anything of rape or attacks on pregnant women. None
of the other survivors ever talked to me about that kind of thing. If
anybody told you that, I don't believe it.'"77 Sammour's statement is
corroborated by the testimony of two Jewish doctors physicians, Drs. Z.
Avigdori and A. Droyan. At the request of the Jewish Agency, Avigdori
and Droyan were sent by the Histadrut Medical Committee [the Labor
Zionist-affiliated trade union], in Jerusalem, to Deir Yassin on
Monday, April 12. They examined the bodies and reported that "all the
bodies were clothed, the limbs were intact, and no sign of mutilation
was visible on them."78

The original source of the Deir Yassin rape accusation was a senior
British police official. Since the British Mandatory authorities were
still in power at the time of the Deir Yassin battle--they were not due
to leave Palestine until May 15, more than a month later--the British
police carried out their own investigation of the events, led by
Richard C. Catling, Assistant Inspector General of the Mandatory
regime's Criminal Investigation Division and a specialist in Jewish
matters.

Catling was not, however, the most objective person to be
investigating whether or not the IZL and Lehi had carried out
atrocities against Arab civilians.

For much of the previous decade, Catling had played a prominent
role in the Mandate regime's violent struggles with the Jewish fighting
forces and with the IZL and Lehi in particular, who had assassinated
numerous leading British police officers and military officials, and
had publicly humiliated the English forces with retaliatory hangings,
public whippings, assaults on supposedly-invulnerable police stations
and army bases, and spectacular prison breaks. Catling himself narrowly
escaped death at the IZL's hands on more than one occasion. He was at
British police headquarters in Jerusalem during an IZL raid in 1944, in
which a colleague of his was killed, and one of the suspects captured.
While Catling was brutally beating the suspect, an IZL bomb shook the
station. "John Scott was a good friend of mine," Catling later
recalled. "We had this unfortunate suspect in [Inspector-General
Arthur] Giles's office and I was knocking him about like hell. I freely
admit it. Then the bomb went off. We were thrown across the room, and
covered in plaster." Two years later, Catling happened to be standing
near the reception desk in the main lobby of the King David Hotel
--military headquarters of the British Mandate regime--when the IZL
bombed it in 1946. At the sound of the massive explosion, Catling dove
under the reception desk and was saved.79

Catling visited the Jerusalem neighborhood of Silwan five days
after the battle of Deir Yassin, and interviewed a number of Arab women
who said they had been at Deir Yassin the previous week. "The majority
of those women are very shy and reluctant to relate their experiences
especially in matters concerning sexual assault and they need great
coaxing before they will divulge any information," Catling wrote. When
he was finished "coaxing" them, Catling was able to conclude that "many
sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews." According to
Catling, "many young school girls were raped and later slaughtered,"
"old women were also molested," "many infants were also butchered," and
"one story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was
literally torn in two."80 Catling may have been understandably eager to
believe any allegation made against the hated IZL and Lehi, but the
lack of corroboration from other sources, combined with Catling's
likely bias and his own admission that he engaged in "great coaxing" of
the Arab women he interviewed, raises serious doubts as to the veracity
of their allegations.

How many Arabs died at Deir Yassin?

Estimates of the number of Arabs who died at Deir Yassin varied
wildly. Haganah soldier Daniel Spicehandler said he saw "maybe some
fifty dead."81 Shimon Monita, the Haganah spy in Lehi, estimated 60
Arabs dead; the Lehi's Moshe Idelstein recalled the number 61 being
used at the time. Haganah intelligence officer Yona Feitelson, who
arrived in Deir Yassin the morning after the battle, estimated 80 dead.
The Haganah's Mordechai Gihon, who was there on the afternoon of the
battle itself, thought the number was in the vicinity of 150.82 IZL
commander Menachem Begin, who was briefed on the battle by his
officers, wrote that the number was approximately 130.83

It was Mordechai Ra'anan, the IZL commander in Deir Yassin, who
first used the figure 254. In an interview years later, Ra'anan was
asked how he arrived at that number, which he gave to the media a few
hours after the battle. He replied:

On that day I did not know, could not have known, how many Arabs
had been killed. No one counted the bodies. People estimated that 100
or 150 people were killed. I told the reporters that 254 were killed so
that a big figure would be published, and so that the Arabs would panic
not only in Jerusalem but across the country, and this goal was
accomplished. Reporters, journalists, researchers and historians treat
it as if it were an established fact requiring no investigation, and
nobody bothered to check what the true figure was.84

Meir Pa'il appears to have been one of the first to be fooled by
Ra'anan's figure. In one of his accounts of the battle, Pa'il said that
his report to Galili described "the massacre of 250 people."85 David
Cohen, Pa'il's commander in Haganah intelligence, later recalled that
Pa'il had used the number 254 in his report on the battle. "This number
seemed to us exaggerated, and we asked him how he arrived at it," Cohen
said. "Pa'il replied, 'I didn't count them all, but there is a report
straight from the horse's mouth'," referring to Ra'anan. Writing in
Yediot Ahronot in 1972, Pa'il repeated the claim that 254 were
killed.86 The fact that Pa'il used the false Ra'anan figure, and that
he apparently admitted to Cohen that he himself did not count the
bodies, raises further questions as to how close Pa'il was to the
scene, and the reliability of his claims about what occurred.

According to Eric Silver, "They buried so quickly that no one
stopped to count the corpses." Silver quoted Muhammad Arif Sammour as
saying that three days after the battle, "representatives of each of
the five clans in Deir Yassin met in Jerusalem in the Moslem offices
near the Al Aqsa mosque and made a list of the people who had not been
found. We went through the names. It came to 116. Nothing has happened
since 1948 to make me think this figure was wrong." Silver added:
"Again, Sammour has every reason for exaggerating rather than playing
down the casualties. His case is reinforced by Yehoshua Arieli
[commander of the Haganah group that buried the bodies], now a
professor of history and Israeli peace campaigner. 'The 116 figure', he
says, 'makes sense. I don't think we could have buried more than
120-40.'"87

Arab researchers' surprising discovery

In 1987, the Research and Documentation Center of Bir Zeit
University, a prominent Arab university in the territory now controlled
by the Palestinian Authority, published a comprehensive study of the
history of Deir Yassin, as part of its "Destroyed Palestinian Villages
Documentation Project." The Center's findings concerning Deir Yassin
were published, in Arabic only, as the fourth booklet in its "Destroyed
Arab Villages Series."

The purpose of the project, according to its directors, is "to
gather information from persons who lived in these villages and were
directly familiar with them, and then to compare these reports and
publish them in order to preserve for future generations the special
identity and particular characteristics of each village."88

The Bir Zeit study's description of the 1948 battle of Deir Yassin
began with the hyperbole typical of many accounts of the event, calling
it "a massacre the likes of which history has rarely known."89 But
unlike the authors of any other previous study of Deir Yassin, the Bir
Zeit researchers tracked down the surviving Arab eyewitness to the
attack and personally interviewed each of them. "For the most part, we
have gathered the information in this monograph during the months of
February-May 1985 from Deir Yassin natives living in the Ramallah
region, who were extremely cooperative," the Bir Zeit authors
explained, listing by name twelve former Deir Yassin residents whom
they had interviewed concerning the battle. The study continued: "The
[historical] sources which discuss the Deir Yassin massacre unanimously
agree that number of victims ranges between 250-254; however, when we
examined the names which appear in the various sources, we became
absolutely convinced that the number of those killed does not exceed
120, and that the groups which carried out the massacre exaggerated the
numbers in order to frighten Palestinian residents into leaving their
villages and cities without resistance."90 The authors concluded:
"Below is a list of the names and ages of those killed at Deir Yassin
in the massacre which took place on April 9, 1948, which was compiled
by us on the basis of the testimony of Deir Yassin natives. We have
invested great effort in checking it and in making certain of each name
on it, such that we can say, with no hesitation, that it is the most
accurate list of its type until today." A list of 107 people killed and
twelve wounded followed.91

How the "massacre" lie grew

When IZL commander Mordechai Ra'anan deliberately exaggerated the
Deir Yassin death toll for propaganda purposes, he inadvertently
provided fodder to anti-Israel propagandists for decades to follow.

Ra'anan's figure of 254 was broadcast in a BBC Radio report the
evening after the battle.92 Two days later, Dr. Hussein Khalidi,
spokesman for the Arab Higher Committee --the principal Palestinian
Arab agency-- adopted the number 254 as his own, and repeated it to
journalists, claiming that his information was based on a visit to the
village by Red Cross representative Jacques De Reynier of the Red
Cross.93 Khalidi tried to use the role of the Red Cross to give the
massacre claim credibility, by attributing it to a humanitarian agency
that presumably did not take sides in the Arab-Jewish conflict. In
fact, however, Khalidi's information could not have come from Jacques
de Reynier. Khalidi told reporters that de Reynier had "seen 40 or 50
bodies," and had been "told that another 50 were scattered elsewhere
and 150 thrown in to a cistern"--that is, a total of between 240 and
250. But de Reynier's report of his visit to Deir Yassin claimed a
death toll of 350.94 Only Ra'anan had used the number 254, which
Khalidi was now using.

On the evening after the battle, the Jerusalem bureau chief of the
New York Times, Dana Adams Schmidt, together with a group of other
journalists, was given a briefing on the battle by an IZL spokesman in
a house in Givat Shaul, adjacent to Deir Yassin.95 Schmidt's report in
the Times, based on that briefing, stated that "more than 200 Arabs"
were killed in the battle, and made no reference to the notion that
there had been a massacre.96 "Not until the next morning," Schmidt
later recalled in his memoirs, "when I went to the Arab side to see Dr.
Khalid [sic], the spokesman of the Arab Higher Committee, did I
discover the horror of Deir Yassin."97 Schmidt did not explain, either
in his news reports at the time or in his memoirs, why he chose to
believe Khalidi's version rather than that of the IZL spokesmen. Nor
did his reports cite any independent evidence that a massacre had taken
place. In his report on the front page of the next day's New York Times
(April 12), Schmidt treated Khalidi's accusations as valid and quoted
them at length--five full paragraphs. The April 12 dispatch by Schmidt
concerning Deir Yassin used the casualty figure of 250.98 By the next
day, the Times' figure had grown again, this time to the number used by
Ra'anan and Khalidi: 254.99

The appearance of the massacre allegation in the New York Times
gave the atrocity claim a significant veneer of credibility. Without
the imprimatur of the Times, the claim of massacre would have been
little more than the latest in a long series of disputes between the
Jews and the Arabs. It is true that the Arab version had the
endorsement of a Red Cross official and the Labor Zionist leadership,
but both endorsements were tainted: de Reynier had not personally
witnessed the events, and the Jewish Agency-Haganah statements were
made by a party with a strong political interest in discrediting the
IZL and Lehi. Once it appeared in the Times the "newspaper of the
record," it took on the appearance of fact, not allegation. Now future
historians and journalists could refer to the Times as their source, as
if the Times had investigated and confirmed the massacre allegation,
when it had not. Indeed, some historians --for example, Ben Halpern, in
his The Idea of the Jewish State, which is mandatory reading in many
college courses about the Middle East-- use the Times' 1948 coverage as
their only source for the massacre claim.100

The earliest reports of the battle by foreign correspondents also
embellished the massacre story with additional undocumented
accusations. The New York Times , for example, in its April 13 report
quoted a Haganah statement claiming that the attackers engaged in
"looting." It did not publish any response from the accused.101 Time
magazine reported that the IZL and Lehi "swept into the village of Deir
Yassin and blew up its huts with demolition charges." Readers were left
with a false image of Deir Yassin as a collection of defenseless
thatched huts, rather than the reality of heavy stone houses, some with
iron doors, filled with heavily-armed Arab fighters.102 Richard Graves,
the senior British Mandatory official for Jerusalem, added an
anti-Jewish stereotype: his memoirs of the period, published in 1949,
declared that "women [in Deir Yassin] were stripped naked and searched
for money" by the Jews. As for actual evidence of a massacre, Graves
wrote that "it certainly was a massacre, as the killing was not
provoked by any resistance" --an extraordinary claim, in view of the
Arab fighters' massive, and nearly overwhelming, firepower.103

Despite the fact that Graves presented no original evidence, his
book has been cited in a number of history texts as the source of the
information that Arabs were massacred at Deir Yassin. Backdrop to
Tragedy: The Struggle for Palestine, by William Polk, David Stamler,
and Edmund Asfour (1957) cited Graves, as did Christopher Sykes in his
Crossroads to Israel (1965).104 The Polk-Stamler-Asfour book has since
been cited as a massacre "source" by the anti-Zionist polemicist Alfred
Lilienthal, while Sykes' book has been cited as the source for the
"massacre" by other historians, including David McDowall (Palestine and
Israel) and Desmond Stewart (The Middle East), as well as the Marxist
anti-Zionist author, Nathan Weinstock (Zionism: False Messiah).105
Hence the remarkable and disturbing phenomenon of historians
irresponsibly relying on secondary sources, which in some cases are
actually third-hand sources, since they themselves rely on other
secondary sources.

Another of the earliest published accounts of Deir Yassin that
became a source for many subsequent historians was Promise and
Fulfilment, by the journalist Arthur Koestler (1949). Citing no sources
except the original Jewish Agency denunciation, Koestler called the
Jewish fighters' action a "blood-bath" and an "atrocity."
Interestingly, Koestler also implied that some Arab descriptions of the
event were exaggerated, remarking that Arab accounts at the time were
"adorned with the lurid detail of oriental imagination."106 A number of
subsequent history texts (as well as anti-Zionist polemicists such as
Lilienthal and Weinstock) cited Koestler as their source for the
massacre claim, although they did not include Koestler's statement
about the Arabs "imagining" some of the allegations, including Charles
D. Smith, Palestine and the Arab-Israeli Conflict (1992) and Nicholas
Bethell, The Palestine Triangle (1979).107 Bethell, in turn, was cited
as one of the "massacre" sources by David McDowall (Palestine and
Israel), who also cited as a source an 1986 article by David Gilmour in
Middle East International .108 A determined reader who chases down the
Gilmour article will find that one of Gilmour's chief sources for the
"massacre" claim is--Arthur Koestler. Thus the chain of
irresponsibility comes full circle, beginning with Koestler's
undocumented allegation; Koestler's account propped up Bethell's;
Bethell's propped up McDowall's; McDowall's was also propped up by
Gilmour's; and Gilmour's was propped up by Koestler.

Many other books that refer to Deir Yassin likewise cite as their
source other books which cite no sources for the massacre claim. Jon
Kimche's Seven Fallen Pillars cited no sources for its massacre charge,
yet is cited in many other history books as the source for the
charge.109

A total of 170 English-language history books which refer to the
battle of Deir Yassin were analyzed for this study. Only 8 of the 170
raised serious doubts as to whether or not there had been a massacre.
Of the 162 books which stated definitively that a massacre had
occurred, 94 of them --58%-- gave no source whatsoever for their
accusation, and an additional 38 -- 23.4%-- cited only secondary
sources for the massacre claim. In other words, a total of 81.4% of the
authors claiming a massacre did so without undertaking any original
research to substantiate their claim.

In the heat of the battle and its immediate aftermath, the Labor
Zionist-controlled Jewish Agency and Haganah had taken advantage of a
difficult situation to score some political points. But years passed,
tempers cooled, and by 1960 a new Labor-led Israeli government was
beginning to reexamine what had happened at Deir Yassin. That year, the
Israel Office of Information --a division of the Foreign Ministry, then
under a Labor government with Golda Meir as Foreign Minister-- issued a
pamphlet about the Arab-Israeli conflict which included a description
of the Deir Yassin action far different from the version circulated by
Labor Zionist spokesmen in 1948:

Jewish dissident groups, led by the Irgun Zvai Leumi, undertook
operations against the village of Dir Yassin, without the cooperation
or consent of the main body of the Jewish population organized in
Haganah. This village had been for long a nest of Arab snipers and
armed bands. The action took place before the establishment of the
State of Israel and before effective control by its Government of all
armed forces previously engaged in resisting Arab attacks. The incident
was unreservedly condemned by all responsible Jewish elements.

Menachem Beigin, Irgun leader, subsequently stated that Haganah had
expressly warned the Irgun command against the attack. He points out,
however, that repeated loud-speaker warnings in Arabic advised
non-combatants who were killed in the fighting to evacuate the village
from which a murderous fire was being directed against the Irgun
irregulars.

The pamphlet then quoted a Deir Yassin survivor, Yunes Ahmed Assad,
as having told the Jordanian newspaper Al Urdun on April 9, 1953: "The
Jews never intended to harm the population of the village, but were
forced to do so after they encountered fire from the population, which
killed the Irgun commander."

While the pamphlet's version mistakenly claimed that the Haganah
opposed the attack, and incorrectly stated that Begin himself had said
so (Begin, in fact, said exactly the opposite), it also directly
challenged and undermined several of the long-standing claims that the
Labor Zionists had themselves initially helped propagate: that Deir
Yassin was not a legitimate target, since it had been peaceful; that
the villagers were unarmed and defenseless; and that the residents had
not been given any prior warning of the attack. Furthermore, the
pamphlet, while noting the condemnations of the "operation," made no
reference to any massacre having been committed.110 Nevertheless, these
startling reversals of long-held positions were almost universally
ignored by subsequent histories of the battle.

In 1969, Israel's Labor government issued an even more extensive
rebuttal of the 1948 accusations. The Information Division of the
Foreign Ministry --at that time under Foreign Minister Abba Eban--
issued a new 9-page pamphlet on the battle of Deir Yassin. The pamphlet
began by denouncing the massacre accusation as a "fairy-tale" and as
"the 'big lie' of Deir Yassin."111 The battle for Deir Yassin, the
pamphlet continued, was an integral, inseparable episode in the battle
for Jerusalem... [Arab forces] were attempting to cut the only highway
linking Jerusalem with Tel Aviv and the outside world. It had cut the
pipeline upon which the defenders depended for water. Palestinian Arab
contingents, stiffened by men of the regular Iraqi army, had seized
vantage points overlooking the Jerusalem road and from them were firing
on trucks that tried to reach the beleaguered city with vital
food-stuffs and supplies. Dir Yassin, like the strategic hill and
village of Kastel, was one of these vantage points. In fact, the two
villages were interconnected militarily, reinforcements passing from
Dir Yassin to Kastel during the fierce engagement for that hill.112

The pamphlet did not comment on the question of the Haganah's
advance knowledge. It described how the IZL fighters (for some reason
the pamphlet did not mention the Lehi contingents) issued
Arabic-language announcements, prior to the attack, urging the
residents to flee. "Some two hundred villagers did come out and took
shelter on the lower slopes of the hill on which Dir Yassin was
perched," the pamphlet reported. "None of them, during or after the
fighting, was hurt or molested in the slightest, and all were
afterwards transported to the fringe of the Arab-held fifth of East
Jerusalem and there released."113

The battle was dominated by "fierce house-to-house fighting," the
pamphlet noted. "Most of the stone buildings were defended hotly and
were captured only after grenades were lobbed through their windows."
Some Arabs "attempted to escape in women's dress. When approached, they
opened fire. They were discovered to be wearing Iraqi military uniforms
under the disguise." Inside the house, the Jewish fighters were
horror-stricken to find that, side byside with those of combatant
Palestinians and Iraqis, were the bodies of women and children. Either
these luckless villagers had trusted in the Arab soldiers to beat off
the attack or had been prevented from leaving the village with the
others when the opportunity was given before the fighting began or
perhaps had been afraid to go. Whatever the reason, they were the
innocent victims of a cruel war and the responsibility for their deaths
rests squarely upon the Arab soldiers whose duty it was--under any rule
of wara--to evacuate them the moment that they turned Dir Yassin into a
fortress...This was no massacre of an unarmed, peaceful village
population by a military unit as Arab propaganda pretends; the Irgun
fought and won a battle, there was no aftermath of outrage or brutal
excess.114

In a direct rebuke to what Labor Zionist leaders had claimed 21
years earlier, the 1969 Foreign Ministry pamphlet emphasized that while
Arab propagandists had made much use of the statements issued by the
Jewish Agency and the Haganah in 1948, in fact "the Agency and the
Haganah were in no position to 'admit' or 'contradict' anything
[concerning the massacre allegation], as their defence units did not
take part in the battle nor could they have known at first-hand of the
circumstances in which civilian casualties had been caused."115 Yet
this extraordinary pamphlet, with its complete reversal of earlier
Labor Zionist charges of a massacre, was almost universally ignored by
historians.

Additional baseless allegations

One of the most troubling aspects of how historians have handled
the Deir Yassin episode has been the tendency of many of them to
embellish the standard massacre allegation with lurid details that have
no reliable evidence to support them. That Arab sources have engaged in
such exaggerations is perhaps not entirely surprising, in view of the
intensity of emotion surrounding the controversy. One of the leaflets
of the Palestinian Arab intifada, for example, claimed that at Deir
Yassin, the Jews "ripped open the bellies of pregnant women in order to
destroy the seed of our people."116 Arab writers have also claimed
that, among other things, some of the Deir Yassin victims were "buried
alive;"117 that all of the 250 "massacre" victims were "women and
children;"118 that the female Arab survivors were paraded through
Jerusalem while "stripped naked;"119 and that Jerusalem residents
unleashed "a hail of stones" upon the hapless prisoners and the trucks
drove by.120

What is surprising, however, is the frequency with which these and
similar "details" have appeared in what are considered mainstream
history texts. Almost none of these accusations are accompanied by
sources, and the rare cases in which sources are given invariably turn
out to offer no evidence in support of the charges made.

One text claimed that the massacre in Deir Yassin took place "while
its inhabitants slept."121 Many books asserted that the Jews killed the
"entire population" of the village, which would mean anywhere from 400
to 1,000 victims.122 Others have alleged --without any sources-- that
the victims were "stripped and robbed"123 and "raped and
disemboweled,"124 with the survivors paraded "naked in trucks" through
Jerusalem.125 Even as widely regarded a historian as Howard Sachar has
made the charge --without any documentation -- that the bodies of the
"more than 200" victims were all "mutilated."126

One text that claimed the Jews "looted and raped," Dilip Hiro's
Inside the Middle East 127 did have a footnote: Noah Lucas's The Modern
History of Israel.128 Yet the Lucas book made no such charge. Another
accusation bearing a worthless footnote was the unique claim by Terence
Prittie that the villagers raised white flags of surrender, which the
Irgun ignored. "Irgun apologists claimed afterwards that although the
villagers had put out white flags, they [the Arabs] defended every
house," Prittie asserted.129 His footnote for the claim was page 215 of
Days of Fire, by Irgun alumnus Shmuel Katz. The average reader would no
doubt assume that Katz acknowledged the waving of white flags. In fact,
Katz did not even mention white flags; he stated only that "Almost
every house in the village was defended."130

The "Begin confession" that never was

Several historians have gone so far as to use a fabricated
"confessional" statement attributed to IZL leader Menachem Begin. In
his autobiography, The Revolt, which was first published in Hebrew in
1950 and in English in 1951, Begin strongly denied the massacre
allegation. Basing himself on reports from the IZL officers who took
part in the battle (Begin himself was not on the scene), Begin argued
that the Arab civilians were killed inadvertently during the house to
house fighting. He also noted that the panic which the Deir Yassin
massacre story ignited around the country unintentionally benefited the
Jewish forces, because it led to voluntary Arab emigration from
strategically important areas.

The most creative fraudulent paraphrasing of Begin's memoir appeared
in Edward Said's The Question of Palestine (1979). Without using any
actual quotation marks, Said reported: "In this book, Begin describes
his terrorism--including the wholesale massacre of innocent women and
children--in righteous (and chilling) profusion. He admits to being
responsible for the April 1948 massacre of 250 women and children in
the Arab village of Deir Yassin." Of course, Begin "admits" no such
thing, but since Said had no footnote, readers could not check the
veracity of his sources.131 Gerald Kaufman (To Build the Promised Land)
makes a similar claim of a Begin "confession," writing that the Irgun
committed "an unspeakable massacre" which is "still justified by Begin
more than 23 years later." Kaufman's implication is that Begin
acknowledges and justifies a massacre; in fact, Begin denies the
massacre and justifies merely the idea of targeting Deir Yassin for
capture.132 A variation on this theme is the claim--for example, by
Lois Aroian and Richard Mitchell--that in his book, "Begin justified
the massacre on military grounds and claimed that without it, the
Jewish state would have been still-born." Needless to say, they did not
quote Begin's actual words, which would have contradicted their
misleading paraphrase.133 Another text even had Ben-Gurion, rather than
Begin, supposedly declaring --without a source note, of course--
"Without Deir Yassin, there would have been no Israel."134

An alleged Begin quotation was offered by Lawrence Joffe, who, in
his contribution to the 1989 volume Israel and the Palestinians ,
asserted that "Menachem Begin is on record as saying: 'The massacre was
not only justified, but there would not have been a state of Israel
without the victory of Deir Yassin." Like Said, Joffe provided no
source for the claim.135 Jamal Nassar's 1991 study of the Palestine
Liberation Organization utilized the same Begin quote, claiming it can
be found on page 164 of the 1951 edition of The Revolt. In fact, there
is no such statement on that or any other page.136 Punyapriya
Dasgupta's 1988 study of the Palestinian Arabs came a step closer to
resolving the mystery, by providing a footnote which read: "This
sentence existed in the Hebrew original published in Israel but was
omitted in the English edition." But instead of citing the alleged
Hebrew-language original, Dasgupta continues: "See Sami Hadawi, Bitter
Harvest."137 A footnote in Hadawi's book attributed the alleged Begin
statement to an obscure (now defunct) anti-Israel publication called
the Jewish Newsletter, which claimed the statement appeared in The
Revolt. Hadawi contacted the publication's editor, "who stated that he
had taken it from a Hebrew version of The Revolt published in Israel
for 'home consumption.'"138 In fact, the Deir Yassin section in the
Hebrew edition of The Revolt is identical to the English editions;
there is no quote by Begin admitting or praising any massacre.139

Portraying the Jews as Nazis

For some historians, the Deir Yassin story is an irresistible
opportunity to invert history, by portraying the Jews as the equivalent
of Nazis and the Arabs as the equivalent of the Nazis' Jewish victims.
Maxime Rodinson and Erskine Childers called it "the Israeli Oradour"
(referring to the site of a Nazi massacre of Frenchmen), while Stewart
Perowne compared Palestinian Arabs emigrating after Deir Yassin to
"Frenchmen in their thousands [who] fled before the advancing
Nazis."140 Desmond Stewart compared Deir Yassin to Auschwitz in one of
his books, and to "Lidice or Hiroshima in little" in another.141
Kenneth Cragg dubbed it "the Arab Lidice."142 An editorial in the U.S.
weekly Christian Century declared Deir Yassin "a horror worse than
Lidice, for in Lidice only the men and boys were slaughtered."143 The
most preposterous example in this vein was that of Andrew Sinclair, in
Jerusalem: The Endless Crusade (1995), who characterized Deir Yassin as
"a ghastly re-enaction of what the Nazis had done to the Jews at
Lidice." Evidently Sinclair was unaware that Czechs, not Jews, were the
victims of the Nazi atrocity at Lidice, which was undertaken as a
reprisal for the assassination of Nazi official Heinrich Heydrich by
Czech partisans. So anxious was Sinclair to portray the Jews as
modern-day Nazis that he literally falsified history, injecting the
Jews into an historical episode to which they had no connection, so
that in the minds of readers, the Zionists' behavior would seem to
resemble that of a well-known Nazi atrocity.144

Blurring fact and fiction

The two most detailed accounts of the battle of Deir Yassin are so
detailed primarily because the authors have creatively "reconstructed"
the event based on an amalgam of interviews, news reports, and
imagination.

Dan Kurzman, in Genesis 1948, turned the battle into an
entertaining 11-page drama. Although Kurzman presents his account as if
it were indisputable historical fact, not fiction, he supplies detailed
dialogue among the combatants and even claims to have known what
individuals were thinking at particular moments. In his preface, he
describes style as "using the techniques of the novelist and biographer
to bring history alive." Instead of specific footnotes, Kurzman states
merely that he "reconstructed" the story of Deir Yassin "mainly from
interviews with Arab survivors" --whom he does not name-- and ten
Israelis, some of whom were not even at Deir Yassin. His most
controversial claim is that "some of [the attackers] admit that," in
the heat of the battle, they "lost all restraint and cold-bloodedly
shot every Arab they found--man, woman, or child." Significantly,
however, Kurzman does not say which of the attackers "admitted" to him
that they carried out atrocities. Nor was there any evidence of any
other claim, prior to the publication of his book in 1970, that any
attackers had "admitted" massacring Arabs at Deir Yassin.

In short, there is no way of knowing whether Kurzman's claim is
authentic or a creative combination of speculation and assumption.145
Despite the ambiguity surrounding the source of Kurzman's claim, it was
subsequently repeated as fact in other history books. For example, J.
Bowyer Bell, in his Terror Out of Zion: Irgun Zvai Leumi, LEHI, and the
Palestine Underground, 1929-1949 --still the only comprehensive
English-language history of the Jewish revolt against the British--
stated: "Some [of the attackers in Deir Yassin] privately admitted that
men, women, and children had been shot on sight." Bell offered no
footnote nor any other clue as to who exactly had made this private
"admission," but Bell's other footnotes for indicated that he relied
heavily on Kurzman and on O Jerusalem, by best-selling journalists
Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre, which appeared in 1972.146 Bell's
account, in turn, became the "massacre" source for a number of other
books, including Melvin Urofsky's 1978 study of relations between
Israel and American Jewry. Indeed, Urofsky embellished the accusations,
stating that "stories of other atrocities, some confirmed and some not,
of rapes and mutilations and butcherings, have circulated to this
day"--even though the only source Urofsky cited, Bell, did not confirm
any rapes, mutilations, or butcherings.147

Like Kurzman, Collins and Lapierre authored a fast-paced,
entertaining saga which emphasized readability over historical
accuracy, putting into the combatant's mouths (and minds) the words
that the authors imagine were spoken, whether or not they were actually
spoken. Unlike Kurzman, Collins and Lapierre did specify their sources
for their allegations--Arabs who claimed to have witnessed atrocities,
and the British police official Richard Catling. Apparently accepting
the veracity of Arab allegations without questioning, Collins and
Lapierre repeated a claim by a 12 year-old Arab boy that Jewish
fighters lined up a large group of adults and children against a wall
and shot them down, "but most of us children were saved because we hid
behind parents." Collins and Lapierre did not seem to have wondered
why, if the Jews were intent on massacring them, would they have
refrained from shooting the children who supposedly survived the first
volley of bullets? Collins and Lapierre also recited wild allegations
by Arabs of Jewish fighters raping Arab women, cutting open the stomach
of a woman who was nine months pregnant, and slashing Arabs "from head
to toe" with a sword. The Jews "killed, they looted, and finally they
raped," Collins and Lapierre concluded definitively.148 (David Hirst,
author of a 1977 study of the Arab-Israeli conflict, was so fond of
that phrase that he plagiarized it, writing "The attackers killed,
looted, and finally they raped," without attributing it to Collins and
Lapierre. To make matters worse, numerous subsequent books which have
claimed a massacre took place have listed Hirst's book as their
source.149)

The rape allegations were based exclusively on the report of
British investigator Richard Catling. Collins and Lapierre reported
that although they "interviewed, with some difficulty, a number of
survivors of the massacre in 1969," they used quotations from only one
of them, "because of the fear that perhaps over the years the
survivors' accounts of what happened might have been altered to conform
with some of the propaganda excesses associated with it." In other
words, even Collins and Lapierre found the survivors' accounts to be
less than reliable. In their notes at the back of the book --but,
strangely, not in the text itself-- Collins and Lapierre acknowledged
that Haganah men Yeshurun Schiff and Yehoshua Arieli, who were part of
the unit sent to help bury bodies, "saw no evidence of rape."150

The latest and the worst

Two of the most significant recent studies of the conflict between
Israel and the Palestinian Arabs feature most of the errors of their
predecessors concerning Deir Yassin. Instead of utilizing recent
research to rectify past mistakes, as serious scholars would be
expected to do, they have compounded and multiplied past errors. Baruch
Kimmerling and Joel S. Migdal authored Palestinians: The Making of a
People, nearly 400 pages long, was published by the prestigious Free
Press in 1993. Mark Tessler's A History of the Israeli-Palestinian
Conflict, over 900 pages in length, was published by the Indiana
University Press in 1994. Both books have become required reading in
numerous college courses dealing with the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Kimmerling and Migdal began their description of Deir Yassin with
the remarkable comment: "The sequence of events in Dayr Yasin is now
scarcely disputed," and proceed with the standard allegations of a
massacre. Presumably the intention of the remark was to suggest that
since virtually no historians dispute the massacre claim, therefore it
must be true. That itself is irresponsible, since the historian's
obligation is to independently investigate the events about which he is
writing, not merely to count the number of historians on each side of a
dispute, and then conclude that the side with the larger number must be
telling the truth. What makes the Kimmerling-Migdal account even more
preposterous, however, is the fact that they did not even mention that
the IZL and Lehi denied there was a massacre. Instead, they state
definitively --but without citing any sources-- that after the battle,
"the Jewish fighters killed many of the remaining men, women and
children and" --again, without sources-- "raped and mutilated
others."151

To their credit, Kimmerling and Migdal acknowledge the Bir Zeit
study, although they misrepresent its conclusion, when they write: "A
recent study by a team of researchers at Bir Zeit University found that
the figure probably did not exceed at 120." In fact, as noted earlier,
the Bir Zeit researchers concluded: "we became absolutely convinced
that the number of those killed does not exceed 120."152 "Absolutely
convinced" --not "probably." Kimmerling and Migdal then add: "But that
does not diminish the depth of the atrocity or its short- and long-run
effects." Certainly a massacre of 120 people is no less horrifying than
a massacre of 254 people. But Kimmerling and Migdal have missed the
most significant point about the Bir Zeit study. If those who claimed
there was a massacre --Arab spokesmen, Labor Zionist officials, the Red
Cross representative-- have been proven to be so completely unreliable
concerning the crucial question of the casualty total, what does that
say about the reliability of their other claims? If the accusers were
willing to knowingly assert that the number of victims was nearly 150%
larger than it really was, how can we trust their other claims--of
rape, mutilation, and of the massacre itself? Some of those who used
death toll figures ranging from 254 to 350 knew that the number was a
vast exaggeration; others among the accusers were no doubt simply
carelessly parroting as fact figures that they had no way of
confirming. Whether through mendacity or carelessness, they mangled the
truth, and such behavior would have discredited all of their testimony
in a court of law.

Tessler, like Kimmerling and Migdal, nowhere acknowledged that the
alleged perpetrators of the massacre deny there was a massacre.
Tessler's version of the IZL's position was a variation on the "Begin
confessed" theme: "Menachem Begin subsequently boasted about the
contribution of the massacre to other military operations," according
to Tessler. Begin did not, of course, boast about a "massacre" making
such a contribution, but rather about how the false claims of a
massacre had the unexpected effect of scaring Arabs to leave some areas
that would otherwise have been the sites of difficult battles.
Furthermore, Tessler also included some of the usual falsehoods, such
as characterizing the village residents as "defenseless" and asserting
that the IZL and Lehi "mutilated many of the bodies" --without citing
any evidence.153

"The major significance of Deir Yassin," according to Tessler,
"lies not in a dispute about what really happened or about whether
there could be any justification for the massacre, it lies in bitter
disagreement about whether or not there was a systematic and calculated
Zionist campaign of terror designed to drive Palestinians from the area
that became the State of Israel." One side of the debate, according to
Tessler, consists of "opponents of Israel as well as some Israeli
scholars and pro-Zionist authors," who say Deir Yassin was part of a
broader Zionist plot. The other side consists of those who say there
may have been some justification for targeting Deir Yassin, but who
"deplore the fact that unarmed Arab civilians were murdered" and "agree
with critics who insist that it makes no difference whether or not a
legitimate military operation preceded the massacre." From Tessler's
skewed perspective, there is no room for even considering the
possibility that there was no massacre.154

Tessler is one of a large number of historians whose books were
published after the Bir Zeit study was revealed in Ha'aretz in 1991,
yet who continued to claim that over 200 Arabs were killed and made no
reference to what the Bir Zeit researchers discovered. Of the 29 texts
published after 1991 that were reviewed for this study, only one
--Kimmerling and Migdal, as noted earlier-- mentioned the Bir Zeit
findings.

A number of encyclopedias dealing with Middle East topics likewise
parrot the 254 figure. For example, the Political Dictionary of the
Middle East in the 20th Century, Congressional Quarterly's The Middle
East, the Historical Atlas of the Jewish People, the Timetables of
Jewish History and the Historical Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli
Conflict all claim there was a massacre of 250-254, or "hundreds" of,
Deir Yassin civilians. The Historical Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli
Conflict , which had a particularly lengthy entry on Deir Yassin,
managed to repeat almost every major error made by its predecessors.
Although published in 1996, it ignored the Bir Zeit study and claimed
254 civilians were "slaughtered." (Curiously, another entry in the same
encyclopedia, which mentioned Deir Yassin in passing, stated that 240
were killed.) The entry made it appear as if David [it erroneously
called him "Daniel"] Shaltiel did not favor the attack, ignoring
Shaltiel's pre-battle letter to the IZL, as well as his admissions in
1960 and subsequent revelations by Milstein and others about the
Haganah's cooperation in the attack. The encyclopedia entry questioned
whether there were really Iraqi or other Arab soldiers in the village,
and quoted Meir Pa'il and Jacques de Reynier as sources, without
reference to the contradictions in their allegations.155 Don Peretz,
who is both a professor and an extreme-leftwing political activist, is
the author of at least two major encyclopedia entries on Deir Yassin,
the Encyclopedia of the Modern Middle East and the "Arab-Israel
Dispute" installment in the Library in a Book series published by Facts
on File. Both entries, although published five years after the Bir Zeit
study was revealed in Ha'aretz, accused the IZL and Lehi of the mass
murder of "200 to 250" civilians. One of the entries claimed "There was
little armed resistance to the attack"; the other did not acknowledge
any resistance whatsoever. One mentioned the attackers' statement that
Arab soldiers were based in the village, but hastened to add
--incorrectly-- that their claim was "not substantiated by the
Haganah;" Peretz's other entry made no reference to the Arab soldiers.
Neither of the entries mentioned the house-to-house fighting.156

Conclusion

It has been said that a lie can travel halfway across the world
before the truth can catch up with it. The lie that Jewish fighters
massacred Arab civilians in Deir Yassin has gone halfway across the
world and further over the past fifty years. The original "massacre
lie" has been embellished upon with additional false accusations, and
then recirculated by an array of harsh critics of Israel and careless
historians, the Deir Yassin lie has taken on a life of its own, making
its way into authoritative texts such as encyclopedias, where it is
being passed on to the next generation as established fact. The truth
has struggled to catch up, but, step by step, it has gained ground.
First there was the Israeli judicial ruling in 1952, an official
recognition, by the very parties that had charged massacre, that the
battle was, in fact, a legitimate military operation against enemy
armed forces. Then came the Israeli Labor government's 1960 pamphlet
describing Deir Yassin without any reference to the supposed massacre.
Next, the Labor government's 1969 reversal, acknowledging the errors
that Labor officials had made in 1948 and officially clearing the
Jewish fighters of the charge that they committed atrocities. Finally,
in 1987, the Bir Zeit University study--Arab researchers confirming
that one of the central claims of the accusers, the death toll of 254,
was a wild and reckless exaggeration. Taken together, these
developments and revelations have exposed, once and for all, the lie of
the Deir Yassin "massacre." It has taken fifty years, but the truth has
finally caught up.


Footnotes

1 For example, Benny Morris, dean of Israel's leftwing "new
historians," has written that Milstein's study "will most likely turn
out to be the definitive military history of the 1948 war...No one is
likely to surpass the sheer breadth, depth, and scope of this
work...Israeli military history has now been pulled up to a new, higher
and refreshing plane." (Morris, "'Pre-History' vs. 'History', Jerusalem
Post, 9 May 1989, p.40).
2 Sharif Kanani and Nihad Zitawi, Deir Yassin, Monograph No.4,
Destroyed Palestinian Villages Documentation Project (Bir Zeit:
Documentation Center of Bir Zeit University, 1987), p.6.
3 Uri Milstein, The War of Independence: Out of Crisis Came Decision -
Volume IV [Hebrew] (Tel Aviv: Zmora-Bitan Publishers, 1991), p. 256.
4 Milstein, p.253 (interview with Yehoshua Arieli, 11 December 1987).
5 Milstein, pp.277-278.
6 Milstein, p.255 (interview with Moshe Barzili, 9 May 1982).
7 Israel Ministry of Defense, David Shaltiel: Jerusalem 1948 (Tel Aviv:
Israel Ministry of Defense, 1981), p. 139.
8 Milstein, p.260 (interview with Shimon Monita).
9 Milstein, p.260 (interview with Moshe Idelstein).
10 Testimony of Patchiah Zalivensky, Metzudat Ze'ev [Jabotinsky
Archives, Tel Aviv] (hereafter cited as MZ); Milstein, p.260 (interview
with Yehoshua Zettler).
11 Milstein, p.260 (interview with Moshe Barzili).
12 Milstein, p.260 (interview with Yehoshua Zettler).
13 Milstein, p.260, quoting "Report by 'Elazar' [Gihon's Haganah code
name]," 10 April 1948.
14 Milstein, p.260 (interview with Mordechai Gihon).
15 Milstein, p.260, quoting "Report of the Haganah's [Anti-Dissident]
Unit on the Deir Yassin Action."
16 Testimony of Mordechai Ra'anan, MZ; Testimony of Yehuda Lapidot, MZ;
Testimony of Yehoshua Gorodenchik, MZ; Milstein, p.262 (interviews with
Mordechai Ra'anan and Yehuda Lapidot).
17 Milstein, pp.255-256; Bernard Wasserstein, The British in Palestine:
The Mandatory Government and the Arab-Jewish Conflict 1917-1929
(London: Royal Historical Society, 1978), p.69.
18 Yitshaq Ben-Ami, Years of Wrath, Days of Glory (New York: Shengold,
1983), p.439.
19 Milstein, p.257 (interview with Mordechai Gihon). Milstein found the
report in the Israel Defense Forces Archives, War of Independence
Collection 83/17, Reports of "Teneh," 9 April 1948.
20 Milstein interview with Haganah agent Yona Ben-Sasson, 12 November
1980; also, Milstein, citing the Ben-Nur Report in the David Shaltiel
Archives.
21 "Shots in Jerusalem,"Davar, 4 April 1948, p.2.
22 Milstein, p. 257, citing the Israel Defense Forces Archives, War of
Independence Collection 88/17, "From Hashmonai," 4 April 1948, 10:00
A.M.
23 Milstein, p. 257, citing the Israel Defense Forces Archives, War of
Independence Collection 88/17, "From Sa'ar," 4 April 1948, 10:00 A.M.
24 Testimony of David Gottlieb, MZ; Milstein, pp.257-258, citing the
Israel Defense Forces Archives, War of Independence Collection 21/17,
"From Hashmonai," 4 April 1948.
25 Milstein, p. 258, citing "Operations Log - Arza," 4 April 1948,
17:00 hours, Broadcast #562, Israel Defense Forces Archive, War of
Independence Collection, 88/17.
26 Milstein, p.258 (interview with Mordechai Gihon).
27 Milstein, p.258, citing Israel Defense Forces Archive, War of
Independence Collection, 228/3, Operation Log, 9 April 1948, 2:40 a.m.
28 Testimony of Benzion Cohen, MZ; Testimony of Yehuda Lapidot, MZ.
29 Ilan Kafir, "Three Accounts of Deir Yassin" (Hebrew), Yediot
Ahronot, 4 April 1972, p.3.
30 Ron Miberg, "They Showed Us the Photographs!" (Hebrew), Monitin,
April 1981, p.37.
31 Milstein interview with Harif, p.262.
32 Milstein, p.263 (interview with Zalivensky).
33 Yachin's testimony is quoted at length in Lynne Reid Banks, A Torn
Country: An Oral History of the Israeli War of Independence (New York:
Franklin Watts, 1982), pp. 58-65.
34 Milstein, p.265 (interviews with Yehuda Lapidot and Yehoshua
Gorodenchik).
35 Milstein, p.265, citing Israel Defense Forces Archive, Yitzhak Levy
collection, "Report of Yaakov Weg."
36 Testimony of Reuven Greenberg.
37 Testimony of Yehoshua Gorodenchik, MZ.
38 Banks, op.cit., p.62.
39 Testimony of Yehoshua Gorodenchik, MZ.
40 Milstein, pp.264-265, interviews with Ezra Yachin, Mordechai
Ra'anan, Benzion Cohen and Yehuda Lapidot; Testimonies of Mordechai
Ra'anan, Benzion Cohen, and Yehuda Lapidot.
41 Milstein, p.263, interview with Uri Brenner; Daniel Spicehandler's
testimony, quoted in Ralph G. Martin, Golda: Golda Meir - The Romantic
Years (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1988), p.329.
42 Testimony of Yehoshua Gorodenchik, MZ. Benny Morris, a harsh critic
of the IZL and Lehi, has characterized Gorodenchik's testimony as
"confused." (Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem (New
York and London: Cambridge University Press, 1987), p.323, n.175.
43 Milstein, p.264, (interview with Mordechai Gihon and "Report of
Etzioni intelligence officer").
44 Milstein, p.266.
45 Testimony of Mordechai (Kaufman) Ra'anan, 30 June 1952, Procotol of
the Board
of Appeals in Appeal 89-90-92-96/51, p.7, File kaf-10/9, MZ. 46
Milstein, p. 266 (interviews with Moshe Eren, Kalman Rosenblatt, and
David Gottlieb).
47 Natan Yellin-Mor, Fighters for the Freedom of Israel [Hebrew]
(Jerusalem: Shikmona Publishers, 1974), p.472; Milstein, p.267
(interviews with Moshe Barzili and Shimon Monita, and Testimony of
Yaffa Bedian).
48 Milstein, p.255 (interviews with Meir Pa'il; interviews with Yitzhak
Levy; interview with David Cohen, 18 July 1987; interview with David
Shaltiel; interview with Yehoshua Arieli; Testimony of Meir Pa'il, 10
May 1971).
49 Milstein, p.259 (Testimony of Meir Pa'il; interviews with Moshe
Idelstein).
50 Miberg, op.cit., p.36.
51 Pa'il quoted in Yerach Tal, "There Was No Massacre There" [Hebrew],
Ha'aretz, 8 September 1991, pp.2-3.
52 Milstein, p.274 (interviews with Yehoshua Zettler, Mordechai
Ra'anan, Moshe Barzili, Yehuda Lapidot, Patchia Zalivensky, Moshe
Idelstein, Moshe Eren, Shlomo Havilov, Yehoshua Arieli); Testimonies of
David Shaltiel, Zalman Meret, Zion Eldad, and Yeshurun Schiff, MZ.
53 Tal, op.cit.
54 Miberg, p.39.
55 Ha'aretz, 8 September 1991; Miberg, op.cit.
56 Milstein, p.275.
57 Pa'il, quoted in Kafir, op.cit.
58 Milstein, p.275 (interview with Yona Ben-Sasson).
59 The relevant sections of Reynier's report are translated in Walid
Khalidi, ed. From Haven to Conquest: Readings in Zionism and the
Palestine Problem Until 1948 (Washington: Institute for Palestine
Studies, 1987), pp.761-766.
60 Reynier, 762, 763.
61 Ibid., p.762.
62 Ibid., pp.763, 764.
63 Milstein, p.269.
64 Milstein,p.269 (interview with Moshe Barzili).
65 Ibid., 764-765.
66 Milstein, pp.269-270 (interview with Alfred Engel, 7 December 1987).
67 Milstein, p.260.
68 Eric Silver, Begin: The Haunted Prophet (New York: Random House,
1984), p.93.
69 Ibid., p.95.
70 Uri Avnery, Israel Without Zionists: A Plea for Peace in the Middle
East (New York: The Macmillan Company, 1968), p.196. Avnery also got
the date of the battle wrong, as well as the time of day it took place.
He stated that the IZL and Lehi captured Deir Yassin in a "night
battle"; the battle actually began at dawn and continued until mid-day.
He asserted that the "massacre" took place on April 10, when in fact
the Arabs who died were killed --however they were killed-- on April 9.
71 Yellin-Mor, op.cit.
72 "Agency Berates Massacre," Palestine Post, 12 April 1948, p.1.
73 Israel Ministry of Defense, David Shaltiel, Jerusalem 1948 (Tel
Aviv: Israel Ministry of Defense, 1981), p.139. In what may be another
instance of post-battle recriminations, but this time coming from the
IZL-Lehi side, Lehi member Reuven Greenberg later claimed that after
the battle, a Palmach member killed an Arab civilian with a small
explosive charge. (Testimony of Reuven Greenberg, MZ.) Lehi veteran
Baruch Nadel described a similar incident in Kati Marton's A Death in
Jerusalem (New York: Pantheon, 1994, p.29), although Marton translated
Nadel's reference to the perpetrator as "an Israeli" (rather than "a
Palmach member") which seems inaccurate, since the State of Israel did
not yet exist at the time of the incident. Yisrael Segal, correspondent
for the leftwing Israeli magazine Koteret Raishit, examined Greenberg's
testimony and concluded that it "is almost certainly drawn mainly from
the imagination." Segal notes that Greenberg's account of the killing
of the Arab "has no corroboration from other testimonies." Questioning
Greenberg's credibility as a witness, Segal characterizes him as "a man
with a checkered past who was involved in many political and criminal
capers in the first years of the state...Greenberg knew how to tell
tales." (Segal, "The Deir Yassin File" [Hebrew], Koteret Raishit, 19
January 1983, p.8.)
74 Decision of the Board of Appeals in Appeal 89/51 (Aryeh Halperin v.
Benefits Officer), File: kaf 4-10/2, MZ.
75 Milstein, pp.269-270 (interview with Alfred Engel, 7 December 1987).
76 Spicehandler testimony in Martin, op.cit.
77 Silver, p.95
78 David Shaltiel, Jerusalem 1948, p.140; Aryeh Yitzhaki, "Deir
Yassin--Not Through a Warped Mirror," Yediot Ahronot, 14 April 1972,
p.17.
79 Thurston Clarke, By Blood and Fire: July 22, 1946 - The Attack on
Jerusalem's King David Hotel (New York: G.P.Putnam's Sons, 1981),
p.224; Nicholas Bethell, The Palestine Triangle: The Struggle for the
Holy Land, 1935-48 (New York: G.P.Putnam's Sons, 1979) p.156.
80 A long excerpt from Catling's report may be found in Collins and
Lapierre, p.276.
81 Spicehandler testimony in Martin, op.cit.
82 Milstein, p.274 (interviews with Shimon Monita, Moshe Idelstein,
Yona Feitelson, and Mordechai Gihon).
83 Menachem Begin, The Revolt (Los Angeles: Nash, 1972), p.163.
84 Milstein, pp.268-269 (interview with Mordechai Ra'anan).
85 Milstein, p.269 (Testimony of Meir Pa'il).
86 Milstein, p.273 (interview with David Cohen, 18 July 1987). Pa'il
used the figure in Yediot Ahronot, 20 April 1972. But in 1989, he wrote
that in his report to Galili, "the number of those murdered was not
mentioned at all, since we did not then know the number." (Uri
Milstein, "The Speech Which Was Not Given" [Hebrew], Ha'aretz, 10 March
1989, p. 15.)
87 Silver, op.cit., pp.95-96.
88 Kanani and Zitawi, Deir Yassin (Bir Zeit study), p.5.
89 Ibid., p.7.
90 Ibid., pp.7-.8.
91 Ibid., p.57.
92 Milstein, p.273 (interview with Mordechai Ra'anan).
93 "Arabs Charge Cruelty," Palestine Post, 12 April 1948, p.1; Schmidt,
"Arabs Say Kastel...," op.cit.
94 The relevant sections of Reynier's report are translated in Walid
Khalidi, ed. From Haven to Conquest: Readings in Zionism and the
Palestine Problem Until 1948 (Washington: Institute for Palestine
Studies, 1987), pp.761-766.
95 Dana Adams Schmidt, Armageddon in the Middle East (New York: The
John Day Company, 1974), pp.4-5.
96 Dana Adams Schmidt, "200 Arabs Killed, Stronghold Taken," New York
Times, 10 April 1948, p.6.
97 Schmidt, Armageddon, p.5.
98 Dana Adams Schmidt, "Arabs Say Kastel Has Been Retaken; Jews Deny
Claim," New York Times, 12 April 1948, p.1.
99 "A Haganah Plane Downed by British," New York Times, 13 April 1948,
p.7.
100 Ben Halpern, The Idea of the Jewish State (Cambridge, MA: Harvard
University Press, 1969), p.480, n.60.
101 "A Haganah Plane...," op.cit.
102 "Palestine: War for the Jerusalem Road," Time, 19 April 1948,
pp.34-35.
103 R.M. Graves, Experiment in Anarchy (London: Victor Gollancz Ltd,
1949), p.179.
104 William Polk, David Stamler, and Edmund Asfour Backdrop to Tragedy:
The Struggle for Palestine (Boston: Beacon Hill Press, 1957), p.290;
Christopher Sykes, Crossroads to Israel (Cleveland and New York: World
Publishing Company, 1965), p.351.
105 Alfred M. Lilienthal, The Zionist Connection: What Price Peace?
(New York: Dodd, Mead & Co., 1978), p.795, n.23; David McDowall,
Palestine and Israel: The Uprising and Beyond (Berkeley: University of
California Press, 1989), p.298, n.44; Desmond Stewart, The Middle East:
Temple of Janus (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1971), p.314; Nathan
Weinstock, Zionism: False Messiah (London: Ink Links Ltd, 1979), p.303,
n.45.
106 Arthur Koestler, Promise and Fulfilment: Palestine 1917-1949 (New
York: The MacMillan Company, 1949), p.160.
107 Weinstock, op.cit., p.305, n.23; Lilienthal, op.cit., p.795, n.40;
Charles D. Smith, Palestine and the Arab-Israeli Conflict (New York:
St. Martin's Press, 1992), p.150, n.64; Nicholas Bethell, The Palestine
Triangle: The Struggle for the Holy Land, 1935-48 (New York:
G.P.Putnam's Sons, 1979), pp.354-355.
108 McDowall, op.cit., p.299, n.44; David Gilmour, "The 1948 Arab
Exodus: 2. What Really Happened," Middle East International No.288 (21
November 1985), pp.15-17.
109 Jon Kimche, Seven Fallen Pillars: The Middle East, 1915-1950
(London: Secker and Warburg, 1950) is cited by, among other books,
Sydney D. Bailey, Four Arab-Israeli Wars and the Peace Process (London:
Macmillan, 1990); Noam Chomsky, The Fateful Triangle: The United
States, Israel and the Palestinians (Boston: South End Press, 1983);
and David Gilmour, Dispossessed: The Ordeal of the Palestinians,
1917-1980 (London: Sidgwick and Jackson, 1980).
110 Israel's Struggle for Peace (New York: Israel Office of
Information, 1960), pp.41-42.
111 Background Notes on Current Themes - No.6: Dir Yassin (Jerusalem:
Ministry for Foreign Affairs, Information Division, 16 March 1969), pp.
1-2.
112 Ibid., pp.2-3.
113 Ibid., p.4
114 Ibid., p.5-6.
115 Ibid., p.6.
116 Quoted in Shaul Mishal and Reuben Aharoni, Speaking Stones:
Communiques from the Intifada Underground (Syracuse, NY: Syracuse
University Press, 1994), p.223.
117 Abu Iyad with Eric Rouleau, My Home, My Land (New York: Times
Books, 1981), p.4.
118 Edward Said, The Question of Palestine (New York: Times Books,
1979), p.44.
119 Issa Nakhleh, on p.570 of John Norton Moore, ed., The Arab Israeli
Conflict - Volume I: Readings (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University
Press, 1974).
120 Sami Hadawi and Robert John, Palestine Diary - Volume Two:
1945-1948 (New York: New World Press, 1972), p.328.
121 Eugene M. Fisher and M. Cherif Bassiouni, Storm Over the Arab
World: A People in Revolution (Chicago: Follett, 1972), p.44.
122 This allegation appears in, for example, William R. Polk, The
Elusive Peace: The Middle East in the Twentieth Century (New York:
St.Martin's Press, 1979), p.144: John Marlowe, The Seat of Pilate: An
Account of the Palestine Mandate (London: The Cresset Press, 1959),
p.245; and George Lenczowksi, The Middle East in World Affairs (Ithaca:
Cornell University Press, 1962), p.400.
123 William Polk, David Stamler, and Edmund Asfour Backdrop to Tragedy:
The Struggle for Palestine (Boston: Beacon Hill Press, 1957), p.291.
124 Cheryl A. Rubenberg, in Roselle Tekiner, Samir Abed-Rabbo, and
Norton Mezvinsky, eds. Anti-Zionism: Analytical Reflections
(Brattleboro, VT: Amana Books, 1989), p.189.
125 Geoffrey Furlonge, Palestine is My Country: The Story of Musa Alami
(John Murray, London 1969), p.155
126 Howard M. Sachar, A History of Israel: From the Rise of Zionism to
Our Time (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996), p.333.
127 New York: McGraw-Hill, 1982, p.62.
128 New York: Praeger, 1975.
129 Eshkol: The Man and the Nation (New York: Pitman, 1969), p.130.
130 Samuel Katz, Days of Fire (Jerusalem: Steimatzky's, 1968), p.215.
131 Said, op.cit., p.44.
132 Gerald Kaufman, To Build the Promised Land (London: Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, 1973), p.139.
133 Lois A. Aroian and Richard P. Mitchell, The Modern Middle East and
North Africa (New York and London: Macmillan and Collier Macmillan,
1984), p.245.
134 Christina Jones, The Untempered Wind: Forty Years in Palestine
(London: Longman, 1975), p.90.
135 Martin Wright, ed. Israel and the Palestinians (London: Longman,
1989), p.24).
136 Jamal R. Nassar, The Palestine Liberation Organization: From Armed
Struggle to the Declaration of Independence (Westport, CT: Praeger,
1991), p.24, n.57.
137 Punyapriya Dasgupta, Cheated by the World: The Palestinian
Experience (London: Sangam Books, 1988), p.82, n.39.
138 Sami Hadawi, Bitter Harvest: Palestine Between 1914-1979 (Delmar,
NY: The Caravan Books, 1979), pp.80-81.
139 Menachem Begin, The Revolt: The Memoirs of the Commander of the
Irgun Zvai Leumi in Eretz Yisrael [Hebrew](Tel Aviv: Achiasaf
Publishers, 1950).
140 Maxime Rodinson, Israel: A Colonial-Settler State? (New York: Monad
Press, 1973), p.114, n.109; Erskine Childers, "The Other Exodus," The
Spectator, 12 May 1961; Stewart Perowne, "Levant Dusk: The Refugee
Situation," in Walter Z. Laqueur, ed., The Middle East in Transition
(New York: Praeger, 1958), p.222.
141 Desmond Stewart, The Middle East: Temple of Janus (Garden City, NY:
Doubleday, 1971), p.314; Desmond Stewart, The Palestinians: Victims of
Expediency (London: Quartet Books, 1982), p.62.
142 Kenneth Cragg, This Year in Jerusalem: Israel in Experience
(London: Darton, Longman & Todd, 1982), p.56.
143 "Israel and Judaism," Christian Century, 16 March 1949, p.328.
144 Andrew Sinclair, Jerusalem: The Endless Crusade (New York: Crown,
1995), p.232.
145 Dan Kurzman, Genesis 1948: The First Arab-Israeli War (New York:
World Publishing, 1970), pp. xi, 138-149.
146 J. Bowyer Bell, Terror Out of Zion: Irgun Zvai Leumi, LEHI, and the
Palestine Underground, 1929-1949 (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1979),
p.296.
147 Melvin I. Urofsky, We Are One! American Jewry and Israel (Garden
City, NY: Anchor Press/Doubleday, 1978), p.485. Bell is also the only
source cited for the Deir Yassin massacre charge in Stephen Green's
Taking Sides: America's Secret Relations with a Militant Israel (New
York: William Morrow and Company, 1984), p.260, n.15.
148 Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre, O Jerusalem (New York: Simon
and Schuster, 1972), pp.274-276.
149 David Hirst, The Gun and the Olive Branch: The Roots of Violence in
the Middle East (London and Boston: Faber and Faber, 1977). Collins and
Lapierre wrote, "Its [Deir Yassin's] assailants killed, they looted,
and finally they raped." (p.275) Hirst wrote, "The attackers killed,
looted, and finally they raped." (p.125) Books listing Hirst as a
source include: Yemima Rosenthal, ed. Documents on the Foreign Policy
of Israel: Volume 3 - Armistice Negotiations with the Arab States
December 1948-July 1949 (Jerusalem: Government Printer, 1981; Dilip
Hiro, Inside the Middle East (New York: McGraw-Hill, 1982); John W.
Amos II, Palestinian Resistance: Organization of a Nationalist Movement
((New York: Pergamon Press, 1980); and David Gilmour, Dispossessed: The
Ordeal of the Palestinians 1917-1980 (London: Sidgwick and Jackson,
1980).
150 Collins and Lapierre, op.cit., p.584.
151 Kimmerling and Migdal, op.cit., p.151.
152 Kanani and Zitawi, Deir Yassin (Bir Zeit study), p.7.
153 Tessler, op.cit., p.291.
154 Ibid., pp.292-293.
155 Yaacov Shimoni and Evyatar Levine, eds.Political Dictionary of the
Middle East in the 20th Century (New York: Quadrangle/New York Times
Books, 1974, p.36; Congressional Quarterly, The Middle East
(Washington, D.C.: Congressional Quarterly, 1991), p.13; Eli Barnavi,
ed.Historical Atlas of the Jewish People (New York: Alfred A. Knopf,
1992), pp.244, 276; Judah Gribetz, ed. Timetables of Jewish History
(New York: Simon & Schuster, 1993), p.495; Bernard Reich, ed.Historical
Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict (Westport, CT: Greenwood
Press, 1996), pp.128-129, 247.
156 Peretz has served as an official of a number of extreme-left
organizations, including the Jewish Committee on the Middle East (as a
member of its Advisory Committee), which calls for halting all U.S. aid
to Israel; the Jewish Peace Lobby (as a member of its Policy Council),
which lobbies in Washington for PLO statehood; Breira (as a member of
its board of directors), the first American Jewish group to call for an
Israeli retreat to the pre-1967 borders; and the Committee for New
Alternatives in the Middle East (as a member of its Steering
Committee), which lobbied against U.S. arms shipments to Israel during
the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Peretz's two Deir Yassin entries appeared in
Reeva S. Simon, Philip Mattar, and Richard W. Bulliet, eds.
Encyclopedia of the Modern Middle East (New York: Simon & Schuster -
Macmillan, 1996), pp.546-547, and Don Peretz, Library in a Book: The
Arab-Israel Dispute (New York: Facts on File, 1996), pp.39, 121.
El Conquistador
2005-08-24 01:16:25 UTC
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There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe. 3.5
million of them claimed reparations in 1946. "6 million", my arse!
Robin Hood Zoro
2005-08-24 05:48:19 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe. 3.5
million of them claimed reparations in 1946. "6 million", my arse!
Ben Cramer
2005-08-24 07:25:37 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe. 3.5
million of them claimed reparations in 1946. "6 million", my arse!
There were 8 million if you listen to the yid mathematicians and
statisticians.
El Conquistador
2005-08-24 10:51:13 UTC
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Post by Ben Cramer
Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe. 3.5
million of them claimed reparations in 1946. "6 million", my arse!
There were 8 million if you listen to the yid mathematicians and
statisticians.
They are right. Except that 5 million were in England and Russia, and out of
reach of Nazis!
Ron Jacobson
2005-08-24 08:32:45 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe.
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...

RJ.
El Conquistador
2005-08-24 10:53:40 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe.
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...
RJ.
And bullshit to you! Even if I use your lying figures and take away 3.25
million who claimed reparations in 1946 it still does not come close to one
million killed!
Ben Cramer
2005-08-24 12:04:58 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe.
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...
RJ.
And bullshit to you! Even if I use your lying figures and take away 3.25
million who claimed reparations in 1946 it still does not come close to
one million killed!
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer. In fact jew
mathematics gives a different answer for each calculation, depending on how
much money they perceive is still available to be claimed. Such a business
already.
Ron Jacobson
2005-08-24 17:21:39 UTC
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Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?

RJ.
Heinrich
2005-08-24 17:37:21 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Ron Jacobson
2005-08-24 21:48:40 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?

RJ.
The Department of Defense
2005-08-24 22:10:08 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?
ROFL!!! at degenerate Nazi dingo.... Oh how funny. Hear that Heinrich, Ron
knows exactly what cream of wheat for brains is.
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:35:00 UTC
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Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?
ROFL!!! at degenerate Nazi dingo.... Oh how funny. Hear that Heinrich, Ron
knows exactly what cream of wheat for brains is.
sorry def it is amazing how you are "admiring" people who so clearly show
they are frustrated.
Dr. Flonkenstein
2005-08-25 00:16:47 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?
RJ.
Because he obviouslly knows the reply and is too much of a coward to
answer.
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <***@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.

The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."

in Message-MID: <***@4ax.com>
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for fucks sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:14:57 UTC
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EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BY BECOMING A JEW ONE AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A GENIUS!
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:35:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dr. Flonkenstein
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?
RJ.
Because he obviouslly knows the reply and is too much of a coward to
answer.
Von Snikkelsteinchen back into your cage again.
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:33:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can
ask such a thing.
It was a perfectly legitimate reply to benjie's assertion
about Jews and mathematical talent. Now, why doesn't the
degenerate Nazi dingo reply?
RJ.
my god you are really stupid

a) time difference

b) he told you he would not pay any further attention to you

c) you are a waste of time and space.
The Department of Defense
2005-08-24 22:11:16 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
Dr. Flonkenstein
2005-08-25 00:15:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
For heilrich only questions about things he doesn't know about are valid,
like sex e.g.
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <***@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.

The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."

in Message-MID: <***@4ax.com>
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for fucks sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"

in Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"
reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
2005-08-25 03:40:07 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:15:49 +0200, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
Post by Dr. Flonkenstein
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
For heilrich only questions about things he doesn't know about are valid,
like sex e.g.
Doodoo and Flonkensteen: what a pair. LOL
Heinrich
2005-08-25 04:41:17 UTC
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Post by reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:15:49 +0200, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
Post by Dr. Flonkenstein
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
For heilrich only questions about things he doesn't know about are valid,
like sex e.g.
Doodoo and Flonkensteen: what a pair. LOL
you should see them performing " we are dancing in the rain"
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:37:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dr. Flonkenstein
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
For heilrich only questions about things he doesn't know about are valid,
like sex e.g.
gossie von Snikkelsteinchen why so naughty my ugly girl ?
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:16:01 UTC
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Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
A type of question Adolf Hitler would have loved to answer!
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:36:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
only a child or a grown up who has stuck in his child age can ask such a
thing.
Bull, its a very valid question.
for a child yes not for a grown up. shame on you
f***@verizon.net
2005-08-25 04:06:11 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
Hmmm, what if some of the Jews were Australians?
Just goon the percentages - it's enough to kick his carcass.

Susan
reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
2005-08-25 04:20:26 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:06:11 GMT, Suzy the foul-mouthed convert
Post by f***@verizon.net
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
Hmmm, what if some of the Jews were Australians?
Just goon the percentages - it's enough to kick his carcass.
Suzy
How many 'converts' have ever won a Nobel prize, Suzy? LOL
Heinrich
2005-08-25 04:42:33 UTC
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Post by f***@verizon.net
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by Ben Cramer
Jew mathematics is not designed to give an accurate answer.
I'm not Jewish myself, but I'm thinking. Of all the
scientific disciplines which are awarded the Nobel Prize,
physics is the closest in spirit to mathematics. Now maybe
benjie can tell us how many Jews were awarded the Nobel
Prize for physics, and how many Australians were awarded
it? Hmm?
Hmmm, what if some of the Jews were Australians?
Just goon the percentages - it's enough to kick his carcass.
stupid bitch, there are only australians with a jewish background.
Warhol
2005-08-24 14:27:34 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by El Conquistador
There were less than four million Jews in the Nazi occupied Europe.
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...
RJ.
And bullshit to you! Even if I use your lying figures and take away 3.25
million who claimed reparations in 1946 it still does not come close to one
million killed!
and 2 million of them in Morocco too...
Ron Jacobson
2005-08-24 17:05:00 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ron Jacobson
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...
And bullshit to you! Even if I use your lying figures and take away 3.25
million who claimed reparations in 1946 it still does not come close to one
million killed!
Go back to school, trash boy, and learn to add.

RJ.
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:20:01 UTC
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Post by Ron Jacobson
Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ron Jacobson
3.3 million in Poland, more than a million in the Nazi-occupied
parts of the USSR, 750,000 in Hungary, and more in Germany,
France, Austria, Holland, Greece...
And bullshit to you! Even if I use your lying figures and take away 3.25
million who claimed reparations in 1946 it still does not come close to one
million killed!
Go back to school, trash boy, and learn to add.
RJ.
United States -- 1,777,185
Italy -- 52,115
British Empire -- 380,809
Luxemburg -- 1,200
Abyssinia -- 3,000
Mexico -- 8,972
Argentina -- 30,000
Morocco -- 109,712
Austria-Hungary 2,084,591
Norway -- 642
Belgium -- 12,000
Persia -- 49,500
Brazil -- 3,000
Peru -- 498
Bulgaria -- 36,455
Rumania -- 250,000
China and Japan -- 2,000
Russia -- 5,215,805
Costa Rica -- 43
Servia -- 5,729
Cuba -- 4,000
Spain -- 2,500
Denmark -- 3,476
Sweden -- 3,912
France -- 95,000
Switzerland -- 12,264
Algeria -- 63,000
Turkey -- 463,686
Tunis -- 62,540
Egypt -- 38,635
Germany -- 607,862
Tripoli -- 18,660
Greece -- 8,350
Crete -- 1,150
Holland -- 105,988
Turkestan & Afghanistan -- 14,000
Curaçao -- 1,000
Venezuela -- 411
Surinam -- 1,158
Total -- 11,530,848
Ben Cramer
2005-08-24 07:24:36 UTC
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Post by Deborah Sharavi
Deir Yassin: History of a Lie
Introduction
For fifty years, critics of Israel have used the battle of Deir
Yassin to blacken the image of the Jewish State, alleging that Jewish
fighters massacred hundreds of Arab civilians during a battle in that
Arab village near Jerusalem in 1948.
Not allegations at all you deceitful cunt.
El Conquistador
2005-08-24 10:55:11 UTC
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Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Deir Yassin: History of a Lie
Introduction
For fifty years, critics of Israel have used the battle of Deir
Yassin to blacken the image of the Jewish State, alleging that Jewish
fighters massacred hundreds of Arab civilians during a battle in that
Arab village near Jerusalem in 1948.
Not allegations at all you deceitful cunt.
Read "Road to Beersheba" and cry your eyes out!
Ben Cramer
2005-08-24 12:10:33 UTC
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Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Deir Yassin: History of a Lie
Introduction
For fifty years, critics of Israel have used the battle of Deir
Yassin to blacken the image of the Jewish State, alleging that Jewish
fighters massacred hundreds of Arab civilians during a battle in that
Arab village near Jerusalem in 1948.
Not allegations at all you deceitful cunt.
Read "Road to Beersheba" and cry your eyes out!
I just finished reading "Letters from Tel Mond Prison" by Era Rappaport, and
I felt like grabbing a brick and bashing the head in of the first yid I came
across. And I'm not a violent person.
Heinrich
2005-08-24 12:43:58 UTC
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Post by Ben Cramer
Post by El Conquistador
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Deir Yassin: History of a Lie
Introduction
For fifty years, critics of Israel have used the battle of Deir
Yassin to blacken the image of the Jewish State, alleging that Jewish
fighters massacred hundreds of Arab civilians during a battle in that
Arab village near Jerusalem in 1948.
Not allegations at all you deceitful cunt.
Read "Road to Beersheba" and cry your eyes out!
I just finished reading "Letters from Tel Mond Prison" by Era Rappaport, and
I felt like grabbing a brick and bashing the head in of the first yid I came
across. And I'm not a violent person.
we know Ed , i know the feeling.
a***@37.com
2005-08-24 14:52:02 UTC
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What a great post Debbie!
Nazis like benny hate it when the truth rubs on their ugly mugs,.
Cheers
Ariel
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 16:54:22 UTC
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Post by a***@37.com
What a great post Debbie!
Nazis like benny hate it when the truth rubs on their ugly mugs,.
Cheers
Ariel
Of course they do. You should take a look at Heineywhomper's response.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! In rebuttal of the facts in Deir Yassin: History of a
Lie, Heinywhomper posted links to -- are you ready for this? --

1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]

And, what Heiney called "the kill" --

6) The Islamic Jihad site.

ROTFLMAO!!!!! With sonei Yisrael this dumb, you wonder how they manage
to use a computer, let alone reproduce without an operations manual.

Deborah
Heinrich
2005-08-24 17:16:09 UTC
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Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by a***@37.com
What a great post Debbie!
Nazis like benny hate it when the truth rubs on their ugly mugs,.
Cheers
Ariel
Of course they do. You should take a look at Heineywhomper's response.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! In rebuttal of the facts in Deir Yassin: History of a
Lie, Heinywhomper posted links to -- are you ready for this? --
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!! With sonei Yisrael this dumb, you wonder how they manage
to use a computer, let alone reproduce without an operations manual.
you sweet i would almost kiss you.
a***@37.com
2005-08-24 18:02:18 UTC
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history shows us that nazis were pretty dumb, even the current ones we
see crawling around here are no exception..
if they had a double digit IQ they wouldn't be nazis, but their utter
ignorance drives them to farthest depths of stupidity.
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 22:40:22 UTC
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Post by a***@37.com
history shows us that nazis were pretty dumb, even the current ones we
see crawling around here are no exception..
The ones crawling around these NGs ARE an exception, because they're
much stupider than the original Nazi cannon fodder.
Post by a***@37.com
if they had a double digit IQ they wouldn't be nazis, but their utter
ignorance drives them to farthest depths of stupidity.
True. Not only are they ignorant of the subjects they are attempting to
address, they are also ignorant of the fact that they are ignorant.
Note that not a one of them attempted to produce any sort of rebuttal
to the facts in the article.

Incidentally, Benny Morris has written a monograph on Deir Yassin, or
rather, the history of the history of the lies about Deir Yassin,
called The Historiography of Deir Yassin. I haven't read it yet, but
will eventually get around to it.

Kol tuv,

Deborah
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:25:07 UTC
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YEAH SURE! WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TRUST THE LEADER OF THE FASCIST HORDE OF
ISRAEL! BAH!
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:23:42 UTC
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Post by a***@37.com
What a great post Debbie!
Nazis like benny hate it when the truth rubs on their ugly mugs,.
Cheers
Ariel
NAZIS AT LEAST HAD THE DECENCY TO ADMIT THE CRIMES THEY COMITTED. JEWISH
SCUM STILL PRETEND THAT THEY KILLED NOBODY, AND THAT 30,000 LEBANESE AND
PALESTINIANS DIED OF NATURAL DEATH WHEN THEY SAW SHARONS FASCIST HORDE
APPROACHING.
Heinrich
2005-08-24 07:41:13 UTC
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"Deborah Sharavi" <***@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:***@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html

and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Ben Cramer
2005-08-24 12:07:46 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
Heinrich
2005-08-24 12:45:42 UTC
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Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
Norma
2005-08-24 14:40:32 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away? I never thought you and
other here would get to be such liars.

Norma
Heinrich
2005-08-24 15:05:11 UTC
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Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away?
i cannot follow you a clip about corpses? you mean housewitz ?
Norma
2005-08-24 15:14:54 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away?
i cannot follow you a clip about corpses? you mean housewitz ?
Follow this, and then I am going to stop posting here for awhile, the group
is being ruined by nothing of substance about Israel and nothing good about
Judaism. This morning has been about the limit with all the crazy and
stupid posts. I am truly diappointed by the posters today.

Incident:

During the funeral after the supposed (and false) massacre at Jenin, there
was someone on a funeral litter who jumped off in front of the camera and
ran away. They were pretending about who was dead. It was a series of lies
and, although I didn't open you files above, somehow I doubt they portray
the real truth.

Norma
Heinrich
2005-08-24 15:30:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away?
i cannot follow you a clip about corpses? you mean housewitz ?
Follow this, and then I am going to stop posting here for awhile, the group
is being ruined by nothing of substance about Israel and nothing good about
Judaism. This morning has been about the limit with all the crazy and
stupid posts. I am truly diappointed by the posters today.
so what? should we be impressed by your being disappointing? if you can
stand the heat feel free to lave but do realize that when you wake up the
greater part of the posters are already in full swing for a couple of hours.
Post by Norma
During the funeral after the supposed (and false) massacre at Jenin, there
was someone on a funeral litter who jumped off in front of the camera and
ran away. They were pretending about who was dead. It was a series of lies
and, although I didn't open you files above, somehow I doubt they portray
the real truth.
does not ring a bell to me.
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 17:00:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Follow this, and then I am going to stop posting here for awhile, the group
is being ruined by nothing of substance about Israel and nothing good about
Judaism. This morning has been about the limit with all the crazy and
stupid posts. I am truly diappointed by the posters today.
Hey, Norma, I just got here!
Post by Norma
During the funeral after the supposed (and false) massacre at Jenin, there
was someone on a funeral litter who jumped off in front of the camera and
ran away. They were pretending about who was dead. It was a series of lies
and, although I didn't open you files above, somehow I doubt they portray
the real truth.
Norma
Your doubt is spot on. Heiney's links were all to the usual dumb Muslim
Arab propaganda -- except his link to the Jerusalem Archives, which was
obviously a major error on his part. lol

Deborah
Heinrich
2005-08-24 17:16:38 UTC
Permalink
"Deborah Sharavi" <***@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
it is not
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:07:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Follow this, and then I am going to stop posting here for awhile, the group
is being ruined by nothing of substance about Israel and nothing good about
Judaism. This morning has been about the limit with all the crazy and
stupid posts. I am truly diappointed by the posters today.
Hey, Norma, I just got here!
Post by Norma
During the funeral after the supposed (and false) massacre at Jenin, there
was someone on a funeral litter who jumped off in front of the camera and
ran away. They were pretending about who was dead. It was a series of lies
and, although I didn't open you files above, somehow I doubt they portray
the real truth.
Norma
Your doubt is spot on. Heiney's links were all to the usual dumb Muslim
Arab propaganda -- except his link to the Jerusalem Archives, which was
obviously a major error on his part. lol
Whereas all your links are from the dumb ministry of hasbarah.
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:07:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away?
i cannot follow you a clip about corpses? you mean housewitz ?
Follow this, and then I am going to stop posting here for awhile,
Good show. About time you wised up.

the group
Post by Norma
is being ruined by nothing of substance about Israel
There is no substance to the illegal state of israel.
Post by Norma
and nothing good about
Judaism.
There is nothing good about judaism. Pleased to see you've finally woken up
to that fact.

This morning has been about the limit with all the crazy and
Post by Norma
stupid posts.
When you cease posting, the number of stupid posts will diminish
significantly.
Post by Norma
I am truly diappointed by the posters today.
Diddums. Grandma's all upset.
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 16:57:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
to:

1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]

And, what Heiney called "the kill" --

6) The Islamic Jihad site.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!

Deborah
Heinrich
2005-08-24 17:17:25 UTC
Permalink
"Deborah Sharavi" <***@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

two of a kind why am i not surprised. carry on "girls"
Norma
2005-08-24 20:50:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
By the time I got to this post, I had given up on his links. I knew they
wouldn't prove anything positive or even related. So, I refrained.

Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!
Deborah
julian
2005-08-24 22:33:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
By the time I got to this post, I had given up on his links. I knew they
wouldn't prove anything positive or even related. So, I refrained.
Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!
Deborah
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
TUKA
2005-08-24 22:50:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by julian
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
You would be challenging thousands of well-documented incidents and
mountains of forensic evidence, while your *single* Deir Yassin incident
is based completely on disputed eyewitness accounts. As usual, you aren't
even close.

But then again, hey, basing your whole rationale on the flimsiest
of made-up evidence and arguments has to be a common experience when you
are an Arab/Muslim supporter.
--
There's nothing sweeter than life nor more precious than time.
-- Barney
julian
2005-08-24 23:06:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by TUKA
Post by julian
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
You would be challenging thousands of well-documented incidents and
mountains of forensic evidence, while your *single* Deir Yassin incident
is based completely on disputed eyewitness accounts. As usual, you aren't
even close.
But then again, hey, basing your whole rationale on the flimsiest
of made-up evidence and arguments has to be a common experience when you
are an Arab/Muslim supporter.
The men.women and children are just as dead though arent they ?
Defendario
2005-08-25 00:20:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by julian
Post by TUKA
Post by julian
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
You would be challenging thousands of well-documented incidents and
mountains of forensic evidence, while your *single* Deir Yassin incident
is based completely on disputed eyewitness accounts. As usual, you aren't
even close.
But then again, hey, basing your whole rationale on the flimsiest
of made-up evidence and arguments has to be a common experience when you
are an Arab/Muslim supporter.
The men.women and children are just as dead though arent they ?
Touche. I'm not Osric, but I say "A very palpable hit"

;D
TUKA
2005-08-25 01:49:52 UTC
Permalink
["Followup-To:" header set to soc.culture.israel.]
Post by julian
Post by TUKA
Post by julian
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
You would be challenging thousands of well-documented incidents and
mountains of forensic evidence, while your *single* Deir Yassin incident
is based completely on disputed eyewitness accounts. As usual, you aren't
even close.
But then again, hey, basing your whole rationale on the flimsiest
of made-up evidence and arguments has to be a common experience when you
are an Arab/Muslim supporter.
The men.women and children are just as dead though arent they ?
So say you. I say if indeed they died, and if they died improperly,
it is sad.

Equating it with the Holocaust, however, I will leave to the Arab and
Muslim supporters. That is about as close as they seem to get to reality
sometimes...
--
Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
-- Karl Lehenbauer
øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
2005-08-25 02:37:08 UTC
Permalink
No they are not, they is the issue, you stupid NAZI wallaby!



"julian" <***@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:i27Pe.1$***@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
: TUKA wrote:
: > On 2005-08-24, julian <***@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
: >
: >>Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers
I'd
: >> be a Holocaust denyier :-)
: >>
: >
: >
: > You would be challenging thousands of well-documented incidents and
: > mountains of forensic evidence, while your *single* Deir Yassin
incident
: > is based completely on disputed eyewitness accounts. As usual, you
aren't
: > even close.
: >
: > But then again, hey, basing your whole rationale on the flimsiest
: > of made-up evidence and arguments has to be a common experience when
you
: > are an Arab/Muslim supporter.
: >
: The men.women and children are just as dead though arent they ?
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:10:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
No they are not, they is the issue, you stupid NAZI wallaby!
Que?
Norma
2005-08-24 22:52:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by julian
Post by Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
By the time I got to this post, I had given up on his links. I knew they
wouldn't prove anything positive or even related. So, I refrained.
Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!
Deborah
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
Yup, that's because the two are like apples and beets...
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:27:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by julian
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
Yup, that's because the two are like apples and beets...
HOLOCAUST IS FAR BIGGER BLOODY LIE THAN ANY! NOT THAT IT DID NOT HAPPEN TO
THE PEOPLE OF EUROPE. IT DID NOT HAPPEN TO JEWS IN THE NUMBERS THEY CLAIM!
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:11:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by julian
Post by Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
By the time I got to this post, I had given up on his links. I knew
they wouldn't prove anything positive or even related. So, I refrained.
Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!
Deborah
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
Yup, that's because the two are like apples and beets...
Dead right. Dier Yassin was a massacre, and the holocaust is a myth.
øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
2005-08-25 02:36:04 UTC
Permalink
Funny how apples and oranges are two different kinds of fruit.

Have you ever heard of Logic and Rational thinking?


"julian" <***@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:rz6Pe.312$***@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...

: Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers
I'd
: be a Holocaust denyier :-)
:
f***@verizon.net
2005-08-25 04:04:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
Funny how apples and oranges are two different kinds of fruit.
Have you ever heard of Logic and Rational thinking?
No, but he has heard of strawmen & deliberately false analogies.

Susan
Post by øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
: Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers
I'd
: be a Holocaust denyier :-)
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:12:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by f***@verizon.net
Post by øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
Funny how apples and oranges are two different kinds of fruit.
Have you ever heard of Logic and Rational thinking?
No, but he has heard of strawmen & deliberately false analogies.
How come then, it's only fifteen million persons on the face of the earth
who believe your shite? Hmmmmm?
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:11:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton
Funny how apples and oranges are two different kinds of fruit.
Have you ever heard of Logic and Rational thinking?
Have your heard of bounded rationality?
f***@verizon.net
2005-08-25 04:03:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by julian
N
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
That's only funny to Holocaust deniers & other Jew-haters who always prove
so
belligerently resistant to facts which disprove their choice of bigotry.

Susan
reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
2005-08-25 04:19:02 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:03:22 GMT, Suzy the foul-mouthed convert
Post by f***@verizon.net
Post by julian
N
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
That's only funny to Holocaust deniers & other Jew-haters who always prove
so
belligerently resistant to facts which disprove their choice of bigotry.
Suzy
"jew-hatred" doesn't apply to thick Irish 'converts' like you.
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:13:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by f***@verizon.net
Post by julian
N
Funny how Deir Yassin is a lie but if I challenged the Gas Chambers I'd
be a Holocaust denyier :-)
That's only funny to Holocaust deniers & other Jew-haters who always prove
so
belligerently resistant to facts which disprove their choice of bigotry.
The "facts" you cunts spout about the holohoax are shite. Simple as that.
Not a scrap of tangible scientifically valid evidence anywhere.
Post by f***@verizon.net
Susan
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 22:44:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
By the time I got to this post, I had given up on his links. I knew they
wouldn't prove anything positive or even related. So, I refrained.
Norma
I didn't bother with them either. It's enough to know that the links
were to the Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service, Al-Najah U,
Hamas, and Islamic Jihad site. Ergo, there was no rebuttal to the facts
contained in the article.

Deborah
Post by Norma
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars. But funny!
Deborah
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:08:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
and for the "kill"
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things,
Why not, Norma? I did, and found that, for his attempt to rebut the
facts contained in Deir Yassin: History of a Lie, Heineykins' links are
1) The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
2) Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
3) [British] Muslims United Against Oppression!
4) The Hamas website
5) The Jerusalem Archives [which, being factual, in no way contradicted
anything in DY:History of a Lie]
And, what Heiney called "the kill" --
6) The Islamic Jihad site.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Post by Norma
but did you include the clip from when the "corpse"
got off the littler and ran away? I never thought
you and other here would get to be such liars.
Norma
Not only are these sonei Yisrael like Heiney liars, they are very
stupid liars.
How can he possibly be a liar. He's not a hebe. Do try to keep up.
f***@verizon.net
2005-08-24 17:18:58 UTC
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[snip lies]
Post by Norma
Post by Heinrich
Post by Ben Cramer
Well done Heinrich. Thank you for that.
your welcome. it is the least i can do for those who cannot do it anymore.
I'm not going to open all this things, but did you include the clip from
when the "corpse" got off the littler and ran away? I never thought you and
other here would get to be such liars.
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).

Susan
Heinrich
2005-08-24 17:38:08 UTC
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<***@verizon.net> schreef in bericht news:6_1Pe.6784$***@trnddc04...
contact wiesental centre and ask them info on Hirschfeld,Weinreb, Ascher
Cohen to name a few.
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 22:46:41 UTC
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Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.

Deborah
reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
2005-08-25 03:28:36 UTC
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On 24 Aug 2005 15:46:41 -0700, "Debwhorah Sharavi"
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.
Why are you afraid to use the C-word, whore Nyob? Suzy isn't.
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Debwhorah
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:38:57 UTC
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Post by reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
On 24 Aug 2005 15:46:41 -0700, "Debwhorah Sharavi"
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.
Why are you afraid to use the C-word, whore Nyob? Suzy isn't.
you mean cut ?
reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
2005-08-25 04:01:26 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:38:57 +0200, " Heinrich"
Post by Heinrich
Post by reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
On 24 Aug 2005 15:46:41 -0700, "Debwhorah Sharavi"
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies
about
Post by reneg~~n.org (The Rev~d)
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.
Why are you afraid to use the C-word, whore Nyob? Suzy isn't.
you mean cut ?
I mean 'convert'. LOL
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:38:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.
whora is name joking !!!! wow
f***@verizon.net
2005-08-25 04:00:10 UTC
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Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by f***@verizon.net
Just look at their old posts - they are filled with nothing but lies about
people, Israel & the Holocaust (this mostly from cramer).
Susan
Really? You mean creamer is capable of posting something more
complicated than "thick Irish c--t"? I thought he hadn't the wattage.
I didn't realize that anything he posted was more *complicated* than
his favorite projectionism, but if you say so...

Susan
Deborah Sharavi
2005-08-24 16:49:36 UTC
Permalink
Heinrich wrote:

Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members attack
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on the
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a Yugoslavian
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
Post by Heinrich
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.

Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?

Deborah
Heinrich
2005-08-24 16:51:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members attack
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on the
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a Yugoslavian
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
Post by Heinrich
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
The Department of Defense
2005-08-24 21:25:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members attack
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on the
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a Yugoslavian
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
Post by Heinrich
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that Europe has
a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their propaganda?
Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and sad at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all unfold. I
hate end of day recaps.
Heinrich
2005-08-25 03:40:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members attack
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on the
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a Yugoslavian
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
Post by Heinrich
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that Europe has
a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their propaganda?
Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and sad at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all unfold. I
hate end of day recaps.
since you cannot even afford a ticket for croatia i suggest you stop
daydreaming. for the rest: you have an excellent chopice to pick the wrong
kind of "friends"
The Department of Defense
2005-08-25 06:41:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members
attack
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on
the
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a
Yugoslavian
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
Post by Heinrich
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that Europe
has
Post by The Department of Defense
a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their
propaganda?
Post by The Department of Defense
Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and sad at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all unfold. I
hate end of day recaps.
since you cannot even afford a ticket for croatia i suggest you stop
daydreaming. for the rest: you have an excellent chopice to pick the wrong
kind of "friends"
what the fuck is a chopice? Anyways, I will pick doctors and other
professionals, and you can choose degenerates that live off your socialist
system and take your money and the only thing to give back to your society
is murdering your politicians and others like Van Gogh...... you are pretty
pathetic. Maybe you should actually play the game and clear the cobwebs out
of your head...You are what we call here, a sucker... Doctor Phil (who is a
goof, but sometimes correct) has not made a dent in you... Linear thinking
is not in your bag of tricks.
Heinrich
2005-08-25 06:46:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members
attack
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on
the
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish forces
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain are
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a
Yugoslavian
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other Arab
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The most
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in the
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that Europe
has
Post by The Department of Defense
a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their
propaganda?
Post by The Department of Defense
Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and sad at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all unfold. I
hate end of day recaps.
since you cannot even afford a ticket for croatia i suggest you stop
daydreaming. for the rest: you have an excellent chopice to pick the wrong
kind of "friends"
what the fuck is a chopice? Anyways, I will pick doctors and other
professionals, and you can choose degenerates that live off your socialist
system and take your money and the only thing to give back to your society
is murdering your politicians and others like Van Gogh...... you are pretty
pathetic. Maybe you should actually play the game and clear the cobwebs out
of your head...You are what we call here, a sucker... Doctor Phil (who is a
goof, but sometimes correct) has not made a dent in you... Linear thinking
is not in your bag of tricks.
time to go to bed def !!! sweet dreams
The Department of Defense
2005-08-25 07:19:45 UTC
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Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
Post by Heinrich
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members
attack
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along the main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on
the
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish
forces
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to tell them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain
are
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a
Yugoslavian
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other
Arab
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The
most
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in
the
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
action.
Post by Heinrich
and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or did you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that
Europe
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
has
Post by The Department of Defense
a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their
propaganda?
Post by The Department of Defense
Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and
sad
at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all
unfold.
I
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
hate end of day recaps.
since you cannot even afford a ticket for croatia i suggest you stop
daydreaming. for the rest: you have an excellent chopice to pick the wrong
kind of "friends"
what the fuck is a chopice? Anyways, I will pick doctors and other
professionals, and you can choose degenerates that live off your socialist
system and take your money and the only thing to give back to your society
is murdering your politicians and others like Van Gogh...... you are
pretty
Post by Heinrich
pathetic. Maybe you should actually play the game and clear the cobwebs
out
Post by Heinrich
of your head...You are what we call here, a sucker... Doctor Phil (who
is
a
Post by Heinrich
goof, but sometimes correct) has not made a dent in you... Linear thinking
is not in your bag of tricks.
time to go to bed def !!! sweet dreams
Have a good day.. You have been a bad boy though... I will take it up with
you tomorrow... Hopefully I will be able to stay in the office and not be
out on the road in the morning. This day was toooo much for me.
Heinrich
2005-08-25 07:26:17 UTC
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Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Heineywhomper, you are a card.
Post by Heinrich
http://www.sis.gov.eg/ismassacre/english/html/main.htm
The Egyptian State [Dis]Information Service
Post by Heinrich
http://www.zajel.org/article_view.asp?newsID=2959&cat=1
Al-Najah U site ("Eyewitness to Israeli Genocide!")
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Muslims United Against Oppression!
Post by Heinrich
http://www.palestine-info.cc/french/article_3856.shtml
The Hamas website
Post by Heinrich
http://www.jerusalem-archives.org/period4/4-13.html
April 9, 1948 - Attack at Deir Yassin
Photo - Yad Yitzhak Ben Zvi Photo Archives
With agreement from the Hagana, the Irgun and Lechi members
attack
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
the Arab village of Deir Yassin in order to clear the area of Arab
threats to the continuity of Jewish holdings across and along
the
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Heinrich
Post by Deborah Sharavi
main
entrance to Jerusalem.
The village is a base for Arab soldiers, mostly local, but
including Iraqi and other irregulars, who fire at Jewish traffic on
the
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road and into neighboring Jewish areas. The approaching Jewish
forces
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use a loudspeaker to warn residents of their approach and to
tell
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them
to flee. Many residents choose to flee the area. Those who remain
are
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well armed and fight for many hours.
A Yugoslavian Moslem officer is among the Deir Yassin fighters
killed. His identification papers indicate he served with a
Yugoslavian
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Moslem unit of the Nazi SS during World War II.
One hundred Arab prisoners are taken and released in other
Arab
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areas of Jerusalem. Various numbers of killed are reported. The
most
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accepted and realistic numbers are 120 Arabs and 5 Jews killed in
the
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action.
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and for the "kill"
The "kill", Heiney, was your link to the Hamas site above. And your
slip in posting an account, immediately above, which is actually
factually and in no way contradicts what I previously posted.
http://resistance.jeeran.com/members/resistance/massacres/gallery.htm
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The Kill: The Islamic Jihad site.
Heineywhomper, you are too much. Were you born this stupid, or
did
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you
spend years in studying stupidity?
why do you talk to me ? go away
Because she tanned your little fanny? Why do you acknowledge that
Europe
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has
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a problem with Muslims, yet you still go around and lap up their
propaganda?
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Your like a dog chasing his own tail. LOL, this is really funny and
sad
at
the same time. I wish I was here today to have watched this all
unfold.
I
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hate end of day recaps.
since you cannot even afford a ticket for croatia i suggest you stop
daydreaming. for the rest: you have an excellent chopice to pick the wrong
kind of "friends"
what the fuck is a chopice? Anyways, I will pick doctors and other
professionals, and you can choose degenerates that live off your socialist
system and take your money and the only thing to give back to your society
is murdering your politicians and others like Van Gogh...... you are
pretty
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pathetic. Maybe you should actually play the game and clear the cobwebs
out
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of your head...You are what we call here, a sucker... Doctor Phil (who
is
a
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goof, but sometimes correct) has not made a dent in you... Linear thinking
is not in your bag of tricks.
time to go to bed def !!! sweet dreams
Have a good day.. You have been a bad boy though... I will take it up with
you tomorrow... Hopefully I will be able to stay in the office and not be
out on the road in the morning. This day was toooo much for me.
wish you a good night's sleep. in case you cannot sleep : beat da bomb !!
http://www.schoolhistory.co.uk/games/beatdabomb/bomb_riseofhitler.htm
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2005-08-24 09:08:34 UTC
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Deir Yassin: History of a Lie
[snip]

Deborah has PLAGIARIZED the
propaganda of Morton A. Klein
of the Zionist Organization
of America (ZOA) without
attributing the original
source. Having the ZOA write
the history of Deir Yassin
is like having Eichmann write
the history of the Holocaust.

Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -riz·ing
Etymology: plagiary

transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of
another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting
the source

intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and
original an idea or product derived from an existing source

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=plagiarize
Jim F.
2005-08-24 11:34:09 UTC
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[snip]

<Deborah has PLAGIARIZED the
propaganda of Morton A. Klein
of the Zionist Organization
of America (ZOA) without
attributing the original
source. Having the ZOA write
the history of Deir Yassin
is like having Eichmann write
the history of the Holocaust.

Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -riz·ing
Etymology: plagiary

transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of
another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting
the source

intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and
original an idea or product derived from an existing source

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=plagiarize
Since Deborah has posted the same piece by Mortin Klein
on Usenet before with proper attribution, I would assume
that if she failed to provide proper attribution this time,
then it was inadvertent.

The standard rebuttal to the ZOA report is
"Anatomy of a Whitewash" by Matthew C. Hogan
and Daniel A. McGowan, to be found, where else,
at http://www.deiryassin.org/op0005.html. Their article was
written as a rebuttal to the ZOA report "Deir Yassin: History of a Lie"
which can be found at http://www.zoa.org/pubs/DeirYassin.htm.

I would start with the ZOA report, then proceed to the rebuttal
by Hogan & McGowan
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2005-08-24 12:08:06 UTC
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Introduction
Thanks for posting it. I'll keep it handy to counter anti-semites.

I'd need the same for Rachel Corrie's story.

ARI
--
Friends of Gush Katif:
http://www.katifund.org
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2005-08-24 22:50:12 UTC
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Thanks for posting it. I'll keep it handy to counter anti-semites.
I'd need the same for Rachel Corrie's story.
ARI
Some time ago I posted all the "eyewitness" statements and affidavits,
plus several articles on the subject. All the articles noted that the
witnesses all told different stories. And then there was the matter of
the ISM sites faked photos.....

If Pallies had a valid case - and I believe certain points they raise
are valid - they wouldn't need to rely on such a flood of lies.

Deborah
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http://www.katifund.org
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2005-08-25 01:30:01 UTC
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Thanks for posting it. I'll keep it handy to counter anti-semites.
I'd need the same for Rachel Corrie's story.
ARI
Some time ago I posted all the "eyewitness" statements and affidavits,
AFFIDAVITS MY ARSE! JEWS LIE AT THE DROP OF A HAT!
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 09:04:22 UTC
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Introduction
Thanks for posting it. I'll keep it handy to counter anti-semites.
I'd need the same for Rachel Corrie's story.
ARI
Some time ago I posted all the "eyewitness" statements and affidavits,
plus several articles on the subject. All the articles noted that the
witnesses all told different stories. And then there was the matter of
the ISM sites faked photos.....
Eye witness account are totally unreliable as a source of evidence. Unless,
of course, the eye witness accounts relate to the "holocaust". In that case,
all the stories are exactly the same, aren't they? Hmmm?
El Conquistador
2005-08-25 01:28:55 UTC
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Thanks for posting it. I'll keep it handy to counter anti-semites.
YOU ARE STILL CLAIMING TO BE A SEMITE???
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I'd need the same for Rachel Corrie's story.
NEED TO MAKE UP SOME LIES!
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ARI
--
http://www.katifund.org
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2005-08-24 19:39:33 UTC
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Prominent Jews' December, 1948
Letter To New York Times
From John Wheat Gibson
From ***@aol.com
8-2-2

Below is a 'copy' in its entirety
of a very important letter to the
New York Times from Jewish intellectuals
including Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt,
and Sidney Hook that appeared on
December 4, 1948 While it is quoted
from in brief on several web sites,
it appears nowhere in its entirety,
and it deserves to be disseminated
as it originally appears.

-- John Wheat Gibson


Letters to The Times New
York Times December 4, 1948

New Palestine Party Visit of
Menachem Begin and Aims of
Political Movement Discussed

TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political
phenomena of our times is the emergence
in the newly created state of Israel of
the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut),

a political party closely akin
in its organization, methods,
political philosophy and social
appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.

It was formed out of the membership and
following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi,
a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist
organization in Palestine.


The current visit of Menachem Begin,
leader of this party,
to the United States is obviously
calculated to give the impression of
American support for his party in the
coming Israeli elections, and to cement
political ties with conservative Zionist
elements in the United States.

Several Americans of national repute
have lent their names to welcome his visit.

It is inconceivable that those who
oppose fascism throughout the world,
if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's
political record and perspectives,
could add their names and support
to the movement he represents.


Before irreparable damage is done
by way of financial contributions,
public manifestations in Begin's behalf,
and the creation in Palestine of the
impression that a large segment of
America supports Fascist elements
in Israel,

the American public must be informed as
to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin
and his movement.


The public avowals of Begin's party are
no guide whatever to its actual character.

Today they speak of freedom,
democracy and anti-imperialism,
whereas until recently they openly
preached the doctrine of the
Fascist state.

It is in its actions that the terrorist
party betrays its real character;

from its past actions we can judge
what it may be expected to do in
the future.


Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior
in the Arab village of Deir Yassin.

This village, off the main roads
and surrounded by Jewish lands,
had taken no part in the war,
and had even fought off Arab
bands who wanted to use the
village as their base.

On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES),
terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village,
which was not a military objective in the fighting,
killed most of its inhabitants-240 men, women,
and children-and kept a few of them alive to
parade as captives through the streets of
Jerusalem.

Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed,
and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to
King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists,
far from being ashamed of their act, were proud
of this massacre,

publicized it widely,
and invited all the foreign correspondents
present in the country to view the heaped
corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.


The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies
the character and actions of the
Freedom Party.


Within the Jewish community they have
preached an admixture of ultranationalism,
religious mysticism, and racial superiority.

Like other Fascist parties they
have been used to break strikes,
and have themselves pressed for
the destruction of free trade unions.

In their stead they have proposed
corporate unions on the Italian
Fascist model.

During the last years of sporadic
anti-British violence, the IZL and
Stern groups inaugurated a reign of
terror in the Palestine Jewish community.

Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them,
adults were shot for not letting their children
join them.

By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing,
and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated
the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have
had no part in the constructive
achievements in Palestine.

They have reclaimed no land,
built no settlements,
and only detracted from
the Jewish defense activity.

Their much-publicized immigration
endeavors were minute, and devoted
mainly to bringing in Fascist
compatriots.


Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold
claims now being made by Begin and
his party,

and their record of past performance
in Palestine bear the imprint of no
ordinary political party.

This is the unmistakable stamp of
a Fascist party for whom terrorism
(against Jews, Arabs, and British alike),
and misrepresentation are means,
and a "Leader State" is the goal.


In the light of the foregoing considerations,
it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin
and his movement be made known in this country.

It is all the more tragic that the top
leadership of American Zionism has refused
to campaign against Begin's efforts,
or even to expose to its own constituents
the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means
of publicly presenting a few salient facts
concerning Begin and his party;

and of urging all concerned not to
support this latest manifestation of
fascism.

(signed)

ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ,
HANNAH ARENDT,
ABRAHAM BRICK,
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO,
ALBERT EINSTEIN,
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.,
HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D.,
H.H. HARRIS,
ZELIG S. HARRIS,
SIDNEY HOOK,
FRED KARUSH,
BRURIA KAUFMAN,
IRMA L. LINDHEIM,
NACHMAN MAISEL,
SEYMOUR MELMAN,
MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D.,
HARRY M. OSLINSKY,
SAMUEL PITLICK,
FRITZ ROHRLICH,
LOUIS P. ROCKER,
RUTH SAGIS,
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY,
I.J. SHOENBERG,
SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. SINGER,
IRMA WOLFE, STEFAN WOLFE.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948


Source notes:

Laura Nader gave a copy of the
microfilmed NYT to Anne Lipow in April.

(Nader has been using it in her class at UC).

The copy was illegible in parts
and the first column was cut off;
Laura's original was the same.

Anne and UC Anthropology Librarian
Suzanne Calpestri then tried to
retrieve an electronic version
of the letter.

It appears nowhere in its
entirety on the Internet,
and is not in any NYT electronic
archive accessible to UC Librarians
(i.e., it doesn't exist).

Suzanne made another copy from a different microfilm;
it solved the mystery of the missing first column but
this copy was also "dirty" in other areas.

Neither copy was scannable using OCR,
so I typed it in by hand exactly the way
it appeared in the original,

and have proofed it carefully.

However, the spelling of some of
the signatories was unclear in the
microfilmed originals,

so there may be a few errors in this rendition.

It would be nice if someone were to annotate
the list of signatories, so that those
less-familiar names could be placed in context.

At any rate, this clearly belongs
IN FULL TEXT on the web for distribution
to as many people as possible.

Please circulate this among
anyone you think may be interested;

I think it especially belongs in the
hands of those friends and family members
who are still reluctant to criticize the
Israeli government.

Source info:
Jenny Lipow Berkeley, CA
<***@netscape.net>

John Wheat Gibson
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2005-08-24 22:52:39 UTC
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of a very important letter to the
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including Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt,
BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! This is how Torres presents her statements in
opposition to facts about Deir Yassin? A 1948 letter to the editor from
the Judenhasse Rense site? ROTFLMAO!!!!

Deborah
Ben Cramer
2005-08-25 07:11:18 UTC
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Post by torresD
Below is a 'copy' in its entirety
of a very important letter to the
New York Times from Jewish intellectuals
including Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt,
BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! This is how Torres presents her statements in
opposition to facts about Deir Yassin? A 1948 letter to the editor from
the Judenhasse Rense site? ROTFLMAO!!!!
'Twas you who posted some rather questionable "facts" about Deir Yassin. If
I remember correctly, you posted the ministry of hasbarah version of events.
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